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ArchaicArcane 06-27-2013 11:32 AM

Camping with Cats?
 
Oh yeah! I went there. :D

We have 2 cats, geriatric. Neither loves the car, but I think with Rescue Remedy, thundershirts and good crating we might be OK. We'll ease into it. Any tips?

The reason I want to look at the possibility of doing this is that one of the ladies needs meds (chronic kidney disease), and they've been switched to a homemade meal which needs to be fed several times a day. I can't see asking a neighbor to pill the queen. She barely tolerates me doing it, and DH thinks if he had to do it that she'd kill him. Yeah, she's a bit of a scrapper. And I can't ask the neighbor to come in several times a day to feed them. Boarding them is a less than attractive option, they're very set in their ways, and very bonded to their family (other than the dog. They can take or leave her, with the preference on leaving her.) they stop eating if they're "displaced".

We have a travel trailer with AC and a furnace and a generator for no power situations, so climate control shouldn't be too much of an issue. While I know that this isn't a "fun" getaway, perhaps at least we -can- get away for a bit if they can travel...

Some CKD cats live for many years with their illnesses, I can't see us never doing more than a day trip from now until the end. The kitty slave needs to detox sometimes from home to be a better kitty slave...

Does anyone do this? Any tips on getting the started? Things to watch out for? I was thinking (DH was groaning and rolling his eyes) that we could do a short trip this long weekend to try it out.

tessagin 06-27-2013 11:38 AM

Sorry. Other than having some one come in and pet sit/house sit.

nativetexan 06-27-2013 11:42 AM

we used to travel with a fifth wheel behind a truck. my Loki stayed in the fifth wheel. he wasn't happy and only relaxed when we parked. later we got a motor home. better by far. still he wasn't much of a traveler. Good luck.

Jingle 06-27-2013 11:43 AM

I have not taken my cats camping. We don't camp either. It should work as long as they don't get away from you. You will need a crate large enough for a litterbox. Good luck, I would rather stay home and tend to them. I would not ask a neighbor.

ArchaicArcane 06-27-2013 12:09 PM

The last time we took -any- vacation was over 2 years ago. The people who took care of the animals didn't see stormi (the queen) the whole time we were gone. They assumed (and it's all I could ask them to do) that things were fine, because the food was disappearing. With her having the kidney issues now, that's not something we can do anymore (not that I was comfortable with it before)

The only other thing I could come up with is there are vet techs who will sometimes come and check on them, but few of them will want to chase the queen down to pill her twice a day and then try to get her to eat. :(

She's been a tough cookie since the day she adopted me. It took her 16 years to finally accept DH.

The girls would ride up front with us, front seat for kitties, and back for the dog. Trailering them has always scared me. My mom did it with her dog, but I couldn't tell if they were having problems, and that would make me crazy. It's possible I'm too attached too. ;)

Diannia 06-27-2013 12:17 PM

I lived in our 5th wheel for almost 6 months. I have 2 cats. 1 adjusted just fine but the other never did. She would run around all night. I think the air/heat scared her. It was in the floor and whenever it started she'd take off running around and meowing. I didn't try traveling with them...good luck!

KarenR 06-27-2013 12:27 PM

I had a cat who loved to travel. One time to the vet was all it took to get her hooked. She would get into vehicles and leave without announcing her presence. One time it was a 3 hour drive before she made herself known. Went and got her and then she sneaked in with someone else- and preceded to have her kittens in their camper before we could go and get her. We finally decided that she liked traveling way to much and she went with a friend who had a camper- She is a QUEEN know.
Traveled with a cat to Alaska- He always tried to escape the vehicle. Crate him before getting out, or we would be playing catch the kitty when we stopped. That one hated to travel.
Go and see how it goes. Every cat is different.

tesspug 06-27-2013 12:38 PM

Why don't you try "camping" in the yard. Drive kitties around a little bit so they get to know the feel and then stay close to home in case things go wrong. You can abort the trip if stress gets too much. My DB and DSIL had to live with their old kitty for seven months in an RV. She adjusted OK.

ArchaicArcane 06-27-2013 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by KarenR (Post 6147087)
I had a cat who loved to travel. One time to the vet was all it took to get her hooked. She would get into vehicles and leave without announcing her presence. One time it was a 3 hour drive before she made herself known. Went and got her and then she sneaked in with someone else- and preceded to have her kittens in their camper before we could go and get her. We finally decided that she liked traveling way to much and she went with a friend who had a camper- She is a QUEEN know.
Traveled with a cat to Alaska- He always tried to escape the vehicle. Crate him before getting out, or we would be playing catch the kitty when we stopped. That one hated to travel.
Go and see how it goes. Every cat is different.

Ha! Your kitty sounds like so much fun. My first kitty didn't mind the car at all. She loved going for burgers. I'd call her and say "let's go for burgers!!" She come running, tail up in the air, and wait for me to pick her up. I'd carry her to the car, and she'd ride on the console or the cargo cover in the back. I didn't even own a crate for her at the time, she was such a good traveler. Her last recreational ride in the car, she rode on the back deck in the Mustang to McDonalds for a burger. She ate 2/3 of a patty. :)

All of our kitties have been strictly indoor kitties, and don't seem to want to go outside, which I think will make this adjustment easier. Less escape attempts. :) They've never really wanted to see the outdoors.


Originally Posted by tesspug (Post 6147101)
Why don't you try "camping" in the yard. Drive kitties around a little bit so they get to know the feel and then stay close to home in case things go wrong. You can abort the trip if stress gets too much. My DB and DSIL had to live with their old kitty for seven months in an RV. She adjusted OK.

I was thinking of doing that tonight. See part of the problem I'm trying to escape temporarily is bad neighbors. They like to party most weekends in the summer, and it's always outdoors. Loud music, screaming and yelling until all hours of the morning. We went over the one time to ask them to turn it down, and they threatened DH with physical violence. And after that, the police still took 1 week to even call me back. And no, it's not a bad neighborhood. It was really enjoyable til these people moved in about 3 years ago. I can probably get away with camping in the yard during the week, but weekends are becoming intolerable and this one's a long weekend, which promises to be worse. I will see if I can find somewhere, provided the overnight goes well, that we can go within 45 mins to an hour of home. The one kitty is fine with the truck, because of her vet visits. The other one hasn't been as far as this new vet, only to the one closer, so she's had less adjustment time. I will put them both in the truck when DH gets home and go for a bit of a drive.

momto5 06-27-2013 01:09 PM

No help with the cats, but I do have three poodles who stay at home when I go somewhere, very happily, with their "come to my home" sitters. These folks are very good, but I can't remember if I've ever had to have them give meds or do anything radical to mine...but they surely would and they would do very well with it, I'm sure. Is there no one in your area who could do this? If they're professionals, as mine are, they can handle it all and you don't need to worry about it! Good luck!

auntpiggylpn 06-27-2013 01:13 PM

I would ask your vet! The traveling might just be too much for that kitty! I know that at the vet clinic I worked at (I'm a vet tech) we would often get older and infirmed pets in for boarding. Does your vet offer boarding? If so, if anything untoward happened, your vet would be right there to treat. So much more is involved when you have a geriatric cat who has CKD. Also, cats who are stressed and not at home will often refuse to eat or drink. I'm concerned that if you are out on the road and this happens, your cat may require an IV bolus of fluids. This is really something you need to discuss with your vet, IMHO.

ArchaicArcane 06-27-2013 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Diannia (Post 6147076)
I lived in our 5th wheel for almost 6 months. I have 2 cats. 1 adjusted just fine but the other never did. She would run around all night. I think the air/heat scared her. It was in the floor and whenever it started she'd take off running around and meowing. I didn't try traveling with them...good luck!

We tried for about an hour a couple of years ago, and one of our kitties did the same thing. I was thinking that armed with the rescue remedy and the thundershirts we may have a different result this time though.

ube quilting 06-27-2013 01:19 PM

I used to travel all the time with two cats but they started when they were kittens so it was part of their routine. If your little ones aren't used to traveling, you may be in for a difficult time. It will also take some time for adjustment after you get to your camp site.

My biggest concern is always "what if"? they get loose. Take extra precautions to make them as safe as possible and one important thing is if you are going to put them on a leash at any time they would be safer in harnesses rather than collars. Make the best of it and enjoy that you are doing your best for them. Keep calm and double check everything.
peace

quiltingcandy 06-27-2013 01:22 PM

We had an umbrella crested cockatoo that we could not find anyone that was not afraid of her. (Which was funny because she was very friendly and she was your friend for life if you shared your banana or grapes with her.) So we finally had to board her with the vet. When she came home she would make whining dog cries when she wanted to wake us up or if I was on the phone.

ArchaicArcane 06-27-2013 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by momto5 (Post 6147127)
No help with the cats, but I do have three poodles who stay at home when I go somewhere, very happily, with their "come to my home" sitters. These folks are very good, but I can't remember if I've ever had to have them give meds or do anything radical to mine...but they surely would and they would do very well with it, I'm sure. Is there no one in your area who could do this? If they're professionals, as mine are, they can handle it all and you don't need to worry about it! Good luck!

The only one I know of formerly worked at the local (terrible) vet and she was fairly flighty even when just handling our billing. I'm not sure I'm that comfortable with her. :(


Originally Posted by auntpiggylpn (Post 6147133)
I would ask your vet! The traveling might just be too much for that kitty! I know that at the vet clinic I worked at (I'm a vet tech) we would often get older and infirmed pets in for boarding. Does your vet offer boarding? If so, if anything untoward happened, your vet would be right there to treat. So much more is involved when you have a geriatric cat who has CKD. Also, cats who are stressed and not at home will often refuse to eat or drink. I'm concerned that if you are out on the road and this happens, your cat may require an IV bolus of fluids. This is really something you need to discuss with your vet, IMHO.

I completely agree. You're right, I should have discussed this with her. I will call or email. My vet (the holistic vet in Edmonton) doesn't offer boarding, unfortunately, because I feel like they might be the only vet that I have used in the last 20 years who could pill stormi. The one in town here is very poor lately, and I can't see boarding with them. They have dogs and cats in the same area in the boarding area, and stormi's dog intolerant. They diagnosed stormi as being in end stage kidney failure with a borderline high thyroid then wanted to see her in 6 months. They also used Convenia to treat a bladder infection and use Metacam for pain in cats, despite my request that they not do it with ours. I just barely caught them the one time. The holistic vet has her almost back to normal values, and her t4 has never been out of range, it's in the low part of the range in fact.

QuiltingVagabond 06-27-2013 01:41 PM

Our kitties like to go with us when we camp - usually I try not to feed them in the hours before we leave to minimize stomach upsets. Both are indoor cats and do not try to escape.

Your cats sound like they may be more of a challenge with CKD and all, hope you get the respite you deserve.

ArchaicArcane 06-27-2013 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by ube quilting (Post 6147144)
I used to travel all the time with two cats but they started when they were kittens so it was part of their routine. If your little ones aren't used to traveling, you may be in for a difficult time. It will also take some time for adjustment after you get to your camp site.

My biggest concern is always "what if"? they get loose. Take extra precautions to make them as safe as possible and one important thing is if you are going to put them on a leash at any time they would be safer in harnesses rather than collars. Make the best of it and enjoy that you are doing your best for them. Keep calm and double check everything.
peace

Actually, that's a good point. These ladies did travel more when they were kittens. I was "young" and moved a lot. They always came in the car with me, and from time to time would come even if we weren't moving. ;) It's been alot of years though since then. We have a harness for one of the girls - she used to wear it all the time, it kept her calmer, but I wouldn't have them outside at a campsite. I don't know what's on the ground for them to ingest.


Originally Posted by quiltingcandy (Post 6147149)
We had an umbrella crested cockatoo that we could not find anyone that was not afraid of her. (Which was funny because she was very friendly and she was your friend for life if you shared your banana or grapes with her.) So we finally had to board her with the vet. When she came home she would make whining dog cries when she wanted to wake us up or if I was on the phone.

LOL! I guess that's a problem you face with a pet who can mimic sounds! :) I have a friend with birds, he tells me the oddest stories. :)

auntpiggylpn 06-27-2013 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane (Post 6147173)
The only one I know of formerly worked at the local (terrible) vet and she was fairly flighty even when just handling our billing. I'm not sure I'm that comfortable with her. :(



I completely agree. You're right, I should have discussed this with her. I will call or email. My vet (the holistic vet in Edmonton) doesn't offer boarding, unfortunately, because I feel like they might be the only vet that I have used in the last 20 years who could pill stormi. The one in town here is very poor lately, and I can't see boarding with them. They have dogs and cats in the same area in the boarding area, and stormi's dog intolerant. They diagnosed stormi as being in end stage kidney failure with a borderline high thyroid then wanted to see her in 6 months. They also used Convenia to treat a bladder infection and use Metacam for pain in cats, despite my request that they not do it with ours. I just barely caught them the one time. The holistic vet has her almost back to normal values, and her t4 has never been out of range, it's in the low part of the range in fact.


Even if your vet doesn't do boarding, he/she might have a suggestion of a pet sitter or a boarding facility that can ake proper care of your baby. We actually changed our kennel because we had a geriatric dog who was to the stage of having BM accidents. When we would pick her up from the old kennel, the feces would be dried all over her and the OWNER of the kennel would tell us "It just happened". We found a wonderful kennel and they actually bathed our old lady everyday she was there and only charged us an additional $10! We even boarded our newest dog that we got from rescue who was undergoing the injections for treatment of heart worm. This kennel has been in business for over 25 years and we never worry about our animals when we leave them there. Wish you lived here because they certainly would take the best care of your baby!

Wanabee Quiltin 06-27-2013 02:06 PM

We have been camping with cats for about 14 years now. I only have one now but we did have 2 at one time. We carry our cats out to the camper and let them find their own hiding place. We have horror stories of when Penny cat would hide under the slides in the bedroom (DH had to pull the floor up to get her until he finally fixed that). Now we have a young male cat and he struts around the camper till he finds his spot and then we lock the doors and drive off. We usually camp about 3 months each winter down south and then take numerous camping trips including a 3-4 week trip somewhere in September. I do not drug my cats in any way and they have never given me a problem. We put them in that camper each season and they always do really well. Our old cat stayed in a nice kennel by the window on the bed and would look out the window as we traveled, sure got lots of waves from travelers about that. But Shadow, our male, refuses any type of kennel and just likes to rest on the floor. We also travel with 3 dogs in the back seat of the truck and at one time carried 3 parakeets with us. If I am going camping, the pets have to come with us, we have no-one to help us with them. Good Luck.

Ginaky 06-27-2013 02:52 PM

My cat is diabetic and requires insulin shots twice a day. We used to tent camp but bought an RV so we can take him with us when we go. He does fine--he loves laying in the window watching out when we are parked. When we are driving, he sleeps on one of the beds, we have to wake him up when we get home. Before he became diabetic we would leave him home and my sister would check on him, but he would get so lonesome. Now that he is diabetic, we don't want to stress him by leaving him for several days, so he goes with us. I think every cat is unique, though, and will handle it differently. Thankfully he does ok! Good luck with yours.

bearisgray 06-27-2013 03:08 PM

Two of the cats that lived with us had overactive thyroids and were given medication twice a day. I put half a pill in half a feline "pill pocket" followed by a few Temptations treats. I would just put the med and treats on the floor and cats would vacuum them up.

bearisgray 06-27-2013 03:11 PM

The brand name for the pill pockets is "Greenies"

ArchaicArcane 06-27-2013 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by auntpiggylpn (Post 6147192)
Even if your vet doesn't do boarding, he/she might have a suggestion of a pet sitter or a boarding facility that can ake proper care of your baby. We actually changed our kennel because we had a geriatric dog who was to the stage of having BM accidents. When we would pick her up from the old kennel, the feces would be dried all over her and the OWNER of the kennel would tell us "It just happened". We found a wonderful kennel and they actually bathed our old lady everyday she was there and only charged us an additional $10! We even boarded our newest dog that we got from rescue who was undergoing the injections for treatment of heart worm. This kennel has been in business for over 25 years and we never worry about our animals when we leave them there. Wish you lived here because they certainly would take the best care of your baby!

How horrible!! Why take a pet if you aren't prepared to take care of them. She must have been miserable. I will definitely ask if the vet says no. I have an email in to them now, hopefully I'll hear from them soon.



Originally Posted by Wanabee Quiltin (Post 6147213)
We have been camping with cats for about 14 years now. I only have one now but we did have 2 at one time. We carry our cats out to the camper and let them find their own hiding place. We have horror stories of when Penny cat would hide under the slides in the bedroom (DH had to pull the floor up to get her until he finally fixed that). Now we have a young male cat and he struts around the camper till he finds his spot and then we lock the doors and drive off. We usually camp about 3 months each winter down south and then take numerous camping trips including a 3-4 week trip somewhere in September. I do not drug my cats in any way and they have never given me a problem. We put them in that camper each season and they always do really well. Our old cat stayed in a nice kennel by the window on the bed and would look out the window as we traveled, sure got lots of waves from travelers about that. But Shadow, our male, refuses any type of kennel and just likes to rest on the floor. We also travel with 3 dogs in the back seat of the truck and at one time carried 3 parakeets with us. If I am going camping, the pets have to come with us, we have no-one to help us with them. Good Luck.

We're in exactly the same situation. No one to help us, and I don't think I'd want to try to burden a friend or neighbor anyway with a special needs type of cat. If they were just in need of food, water and a warm bed, it might be OK for a weekend for us, but our vacation a few years ago made me so nervous. We have such a great neighbor, the one time she looked after them, she made sure she visually spotted stormi each night and emailed me to tell me that she had. :) A lot has changed since then though, and it would be unkind to everyone to try to ask her to pill an unwilling cat.


Originally Posted by Ginaky (Post 6147262)
My cat is diabetic and requires insulin shots twice a day. We used to tent camp but bought an RV so we can take him with us when we go. He does fine--he loves laying in the window watching out when we are parked. When we are driving, he sleeps on one of the beds, we have to wake him up when we get home. Before he became diabetic we would leave him home and my sister would check on him, but he would get so lonesome. Now that he is diabetic, we don't want to stress him by leaving him for several days, so he goes with us. I think every cat is unique, though, and will handle it differently. Thankfully he does ok! Good luck with yours.

Somehow I knew that the people here wouldn't think I was a complete nutter for wanting to do this. :) We had the trailer already, for the bikes and such, but I find as I'm slowing down some, I see other uses for that big back area ;) I'm reasonably sure they would do fine with the trailer when it's stationary, and might get used to the truck while moving. A trailer is so bumpy when it's moving (I rode in the back for a couple of miles once to see what it was like for the animals), I'm surprised that animals will sleep in the trailers.


Originally Posted by bearisgray (Post 6147278)
Two of the cats that lived with us had overactive thyroids and were given medication twice a day. I put half a pill in half a feline "pill pocket" followed by a few Temptations treats. I would just put the med and treats on the floor and cats would vacuum them up.

OK, I laughed out loud when I read this. One of the kitties thought I was nuts. :) I've seen them in the stores and often wondered if they worked. Kitty Crack, eh?

willis.debra 06-28-2013 03:13 AM

The only thing I can think of is to ask the vet if there is a kitty Dramamine. Our dog had to have Dramamine to go on a car ride to the vet or he vomited everywhere. The vet said to give him half a Dramamine. It worked and he eventually got over it.

Good luck.

coopah 06-28-2013 04:41 AM

Oh, you are going through a rough spot. We had to decide whether to put our two 18 year old cats to sleep or move them 3200 miles with us. Both had health issues/ We just couldn't euthanize our companions. It was a rough trip even with the "relaxing drops" the vet gave us. I wish you well and hope you find a good solution for you and your fur babies.

sparkys_mom 06-28-2013 05:30 AM

That is a tough situation. I can sympathize as I had a 'difficult' dog that kept me at home for ten years. I boarded him at the vet a few times b/c I didn't have a choice when I had surgery and follow on chemo, etc. But it was hard on both of us.

I didn't read all of the posts here but I did notice 1) the difficult neighbors and 2) you plan to stay within an hour of home. Have you considered leaving the cats overnight and staying at home during the day? Since you don't plan to be that far away, maybe you could do that. I think I'd opt for finding a place with a nice restaurant and good cable tv and just 'camp out' there for a couple of nights, going home in the morning.

I hope your neighbors are renters and will eventually move on . I went through that for two years (I'm in a condo) and it was horrible.

w1613s 06-28-2013 05:53 AM

The rule around here is if we go, the cats go. We have had cats since 1964.

The first one was while we were in college and our only transportation was a motorcycle. He liked to sit in the big pocket of my windbreaker or the right saddlebag. He would sit on the seat of the motorcycle waiting for someone to go somewhere so he could tag along.

All subsequent going places close and not so close have been in combinations of cars and rvs. All of the cats had their quirks. Some loved being in the over the cab spaces so they could oversee things inside and out. One seemed to object to the first night out. If you are traveling for time in an rv, each night until you arrive at your destination is the first night out. That cat was an 18 pound male ragdoll (breed) and a sweetheart but he had a voice that would curl your hair and he would spend that first night yowling and stamping all over my husband. The following morning was not fun at the breakfast table. We discovered that if Rich slept over the cab that first night and the cat and I slept in the bed, all was right with the world from then on - even at the breakfast table.

All but one of our cats lived to very old ages. A couple of them were diabetic, complete with meters, blood tests and insulin. They went with us also. One other cat had a special diet I needed to make for him and he and his diet and his equipment went from Florida all over the Midwest and the northern Midwest for four months one year.

I guess that means that if you want to do it, it is doable? Your idea of a 'warm up/test' trip is a good one. Away from home, I would think. Every year we have the rv gone over for problems and then pack up and spend a week about 30 miles away from home so we can be sure everything and everybody are on track and everything and everybody can be towed back home in case of problems that did not get taken care of.

Oh! Before you head out for somewhere for real, make sure everyone, including the people, has had the doctor's/the vet's once over gently, all meds are covered, there is a list of what meds for whom, why, and phone numbers for doctors and vets. Not to mention critter shot records. People shot records would probably help too. We have been in emergency situations with both cats and human and the above is really important.

Enjoy your get away. Sorry for the length but I was a project manager and one of my quirks is that I despise unnecessary and nasty surprises. "Plan for the Worst" is my motto because, if you do, everything else is a piece of cake.

scarlet14 06-28-2013 06:09 AM

The 18 # avitar cat goes with us most of the time---may leave him home for a weekender with a continuous feeder but take him in our motor home---he really doesn't like the driving part but when we arrive he is fine---when we go north or south he rides fine [sorta] but when we go east ot west he get sick---slobers for a while---then barfs and is ok---asked the vet and he just said 'Oh well, that's Toby' it seems to be nerves rather than motiong sickness---I put baby bibs on him for the slober-----I do take his food away the night before we leave---when we get to the campground all our friends come to visit him

Cheshirecatquilter 06-28-2013 06:52 AM

I have read all of Lillian Jackson's cozy mystery series, "The Cat Who...", and pooh poohed each time I read that main character Jim Qwilleran's cats, Yum-Yum and Koko would happily jump into a travel bag. Now I've read some of your adventures with cats, and I guess I can buy into it. However, my avatar cat Franky, who passed on my birthday, May 7th, this year, would complain loudly and constantly every time he had to ride in a vehicle. No vacations with him, for sure.

Snooze2978 06-28-2013 09:34 AM

I've never camped with my kitties but I did with my dogs years ago. They took off as soon as we let them out of the car. We found our male scottie getting friendly with a bull in a field. That was a close call. Now I've traveled with a cat from Florida to Iowa so a long trip. I jambed her carrier on the back seat between the two front seats and was able to set her water and food bowls wedged between the carrier and front seats. She was able to lay on top of her carrier to see out the window and/or come up to the front passenger seat to get petted. It was my first time with this cat and she was no problem. Her litter box was way in the back of the SUV but where she could get to it and I didn't have to smell it. I drove straight thru so about 27-29 hrs in the car with her. I let her out at a rest stop to stretch her legs and that was a mistake as there was a stray cat on the other side of the fence. I had to coached the stray to come thru for some food to get mine to come back over to me. Didn't try that again.

ArchaicArcane 06-28-2013 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by willis.debra (Post 6147887)
The only thing I can think of is to ask the vet if there is a kitty Dramamine. Our dog had to have Dramamine to go on a car ride to the vet or he vomited everywhere. The vet said to give him half a Dramamine. It worked and he eventually got over it.

Good luck.

Our dog used to do that too. She actually got to the point where she would stick her head in the bag we offered for her to throw up in. Eventually she grew out of it, but from time to time, we still give her a gravol before we leave, per her old vet. Seems to help. I'm not sure what's out there for kitties. I will inquire. We took the one who's not used to car rides out last night and she started yowling and shaking all the way to the post office and back, only if the truck was running. This will be a challenge.


Originally Posted by coopah (Post 6148095)
Oh, you are going through a rough spot. We had to decide whether to put our two 18 year old cats to sleep or move them 3200 miles with us. Both had health issues/ We just couldn't euthanize our companions. It was a rough trip even with the "relaxing drops" the vet gave us. I wish you well and hope you find a good solution for you and your fur babies.

Thanks :) We will try to ease them into it, even if it means that we're here this weekend dealing with the neighbors. Maybe by next long weekend they can be ready. We don't have AC in the house so we may be moving into the trailer for next week anyway, so it will be good conditioning for them.


Originally Posted by sparkys_mom (Post 6148200)
That is a tough situation. I can sympathize as I had a 'difficult' dog that kept me at home for ten years. I boarded him at the vet a few times b/c I didn't have a choice when I had surgery and follow on chemo, etc. But it was hard on both of us.

I didn't read all of the posts here but I did notice 1) the difficult neighbors and 2) you plan to stay within an hour of home. Have you considered leaving the cats overnight and staying at home during the day? Since you don't plan to be that far away, maybe you could do that. I think I'd opt for finding a place with a nice restaurant and good cable tv and just 'camp out' there for a couple of nights, going home in the morning.

I hope your neighbors are renters and will eventually move on . I went through that for two years (I'm in a condo) and it was horrible.

DH thought this seemed like a really good idea. :) It would be tough on me to some degree, I'm used to kitty comforters at night, and I get terribly home sick for my kitties but it may be a viable option.

Yeah, these guys bought unfortunately. The woman works at a bar (older than me), and it looks like she brings her work home with her. Last year when we went to ask them to turn it down she said "When I get a night off from the bar, I just wanna relax and have fun!!"... uh... Ok, but it's been 13 hours....


Originally Posted by w1613s (Post 6148251)
The rule around here is if we go, the cats go. We have had cats since 1964.

The first one was while we were in college and our only transportation was a motorcycle. He liked to sit in the big pocket of my windbreaker or the right saddlebag. He would sit on the seat of the motorcycle waiting for someone to go somewhere so he could tag along.

All subsequent going places close and not so close have been in combinations of cars and rvs. All of the cats had their quirks. Some loved being in the over the cab spaces so they could oversee things inside and out. One seemed to object to the first night out. If you are traveling for time in an rv, each night until you arrive at your destination is the first night out. That cat was an 18 pound male ragdoll (breed) and a sweetheart but he had a voice that would curl your hair and he would spend that first night yowling and stamping all over my husband. The following morning was not fun at the breakfast table. We discovered that if Rich slept over the cab that first night and the cat and I slept in the bed, all was right with the world from then on - even at the breakfast table.

All but one of our cats lived to very old ages. A couple of them were diabetic, complete with meters, blood tests and insulin. They went with us also. One other cat had a special diet I needed to make for him and he and his diet and his equipment went from Florida all over the Midwest and the northern Midwest for four months one year.

I guess that means that if you want to do it, it is doable? Your idea of a 'warm up/test' trip is a good one. Away from home, I would think. Every year we have the rv gone over for problems and then pack up and spend a week about 30 miles away from home so we can be sure everything and everybody are on track and everything and everybody can be towed back home in case of problems that did not get taken care of.

Oh! Before you head out for somewhere for real, make sure everyone, including the people, has had the doctor's/the vet's once over gently, all meds are covered, there is a list of what meds for whom, why, and phone numbers for doctors and vets. Not to mention critter shot records. People shot records would probably help too. We have been in emergency situations with both cats and human and the above is really important.

Enjoy your get away. Sorry for the length but I was a project manager and one of my quirks is that I despise unnecessary and nasty surprises. "Plan for the Worst" is my motto because, if you do, everything else is a piece of cake.

Ha! Awesome!! Motorcycle kitty! I always joked about putting our old kitty on the bike to go to the vet, aviator glasses, and helmet, and little cheeks flapping in the wind. DH thought it wasn't a good idea. ;)

Thanks for the reminder on the medical records and such. We usually have their most recent labs and such if we travel, but that's about it. I'm a former technical business analyst, so I appreciate the planning (and a PM that does planning as well, a lot of the ones I worked for shoved it all on us)


Originally Posted by scarlet14 (Post 6148288)
The 18 # avitar cat goes with us most of the time---may leave him home for a weekender with a continuous feeder but take him in our motor home---he really doesn't like the driving part but when we arrive he is fine---when we go north or south he rides fine [sorta] but when we go east ot west he get sick---slobers for a while---then barfs and is ok---asked the vet and he just said 'Oh well, that's Toby' it seems to be nerves rather than motiong sickness---I put baby bibs on him for the slober-----I do take his food away the night before we leave---when we get to the campground all our friends come to visit him

That's really weird that he would care about the direction! I think our one kitty has a pretty big case of the nerves, so we've slowed down our timetable for her. I made sure when we got home that she had all she could eat of her favorite (usually forbidden) food, so hopefully she'll start to equate the truck rides with her favorite food and let us do this. ;)


Originally Posted by Cheshirecatquilter (Post 6148388)
I have read all of Lillian Jackson's cozy mystery series, "The Cat Who...", and pooh poohed each time I read that main character Jim Qwilleran's cats, Yum-Yum and Koko would happily jump into a travel bag. Now I've read some of your adventures with cats, and I guess I can buy into it. However, my avatar cat Franky, who passed on my birthday, May 7th, this year, would complain loudly and constantly every time he had to ride in a vehicle. No vacations with him, for sure.

At first, even my oldest kitty would put her back feet on the console, her front paws on my shoulder and yowl in my ear. Eventually, she wanted to go for car rides. You never can tell how the kitties will or if they will adapt. :) Sorry to hear you lost your furbaby. That's one of the toughest things I've ever gone through.


Originally Posted by Snooze2978 (Post 6148621)
I've never camped with my kitties but I did with my dogs years ago. They took off as soon as we let them out of the car. We found our male scottie getting friendly with a bull in a field. That was a close call. Now I've traveled with a cat from Florida to Iowa so a long trip. I jambed her carrier on the back seat between the two front seats and was able to set her water and food bowls wedged between the carrier and front seats. She was able to lay on top of her carrier to see out the window and/or come up to the front passenger seat to get petted. It was my first time with this cat and she was no problem. Her litter box was way in the back of the SUV but where she could get to it and I didn't have to smell it. I drove straight thru so about 27-29 hrs in the car with her. I let her out at a rest stop to stretch her legs and that was a mistake as there was a stray cat on the other side of the fence. I had to coached the stray to come thru for some food to get mine to come back over to me. Didn't try that again.

I have a fear of the kitties getting lost, so I would definitely make sure that they were well corralled even at stops. Did kitty willingly use the litter box in the suv? I have one harness, I could easily find or fabricate another. I used to make all of the dogs' harnesses, including a sled dog pulling harness for our Mal.

star619 06-28-2013 07:41 PM


I've had both - a dropped off kitten/cat that loved to go for rides & a rescue cat that was, at his one and only vet visit, described by the workers as "the cat from Hell". So you really can't predict, trial & error. Good luck - I know of no greater comfort than the love of a cat.

Tothill 06-28-2013 08:28 PM

I am one of the ladies who walks her cat in the campground.

We also used to take the cats to the cottage before we started RVing.

We did not plan to take Sophia with us. We have a class c motor home and she popped out an hour from home. We stopped at a pet store and bought a leash and harness for her, plus a litter box. We did not have a crate with us, but she did just fine. She had the harness on all the time and the leash every time we opened the door.

I walked her on the leash, she did most her business outside (it was challenging to scoop before she buried her poop.) She had her own chair by the campfire and was content to sit in it (leash tied) for hours.

We have taken her several times since. Sophia is 8 now.

Last year we had a kitten too. Lizzie wore a harness all the time too, but we did not let her out. We did bring the crate, but she was happy to wander around. We only crated her when we stopped.

Now we have Charlie too. I am not sure if we will bring him when we go camping next week. He may stay home with Lizzie.

We are lucky that the cats are healthy and we have a good arrangement with my Mum for her to feed them when we are away. We look after her old dog on a regular basis, so the system is fair.

We also have a 20# mutt that travels with us.

Battle Axe 06-29-2013 04:18 AM

I once saw a cat camping couple. They lived in an RV permanently. There was a fairly large, 4 x 5 cage mounted on the side of the camper with a pet door. When they got to where they were going, they installed the outdoor cage and then opened the the little pet entrance door and the cat could actually go outside, be it high up in the air, and enjoy fresh air and sunshine. The cat they had loved it.

JoyjoyMarie 06-29-2013 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by Battle Axe (Post 6149598)
I once saw a cat camping couple. They lived in an RV permanently. There was a fairly large, 4 x 5 cage mounted on the side of the camper with a pet door. When they got to where they were going, they installed the outdoor cage and then opened the the little pet entrance door and the cat could actually go outside, be it high up in the air, and enjoy fresh air and sunshine. The cat they had loved it.

We camped for a few years with our cats, and saw a rig once something like that - They had also opened up a way for them to get into the basement storage area for a cat box, I think, and the folks could "service it" from the outdoors. I thought that was great, because I was sick of the box in our hallway.

Our cats did quite well traveling with us. We had a great time with them. We had two exceptions in our travels - once, early on before his "travel adjustment," when Beethoven jumped out the window at a turnpike toll booth. We had to get him quick!! Fortunately, it was not rush hour there! and secondly, we hit some heat in S. Cal and AZ one year, that our air conditioner would not handle, so had to move along to cooler country before we had intended to.

Grace MooreLinker 06-29-2013 06:25 AM

My daughters vet kenniles pets, that way they are cared for medical needs also.

Tothill 06-29-2013 06:29 AM

"we hit some heat in S. Cal and AZ one year, that our air conditioner would not handle, so had to move along to cooler country before we had intended to."

When I was a child we never had air conditioning in the car. Travelling with Mutzie to the cottage, Mum would wrap her in a damp towel, almost swaddle her. The cat loved it, she was not hot and felt very secure. She was never crated, leashed or otherwise secured.

Of course the heat was never in the leagues of Arizona in the summer.

rjwilder 06-29-2013 08:36 AM

We travel with an 18 pound cat we have a 5th wheel. We got him when he was 9, his previous owner never took him in an RV. We decided he was going to have to get used to the RV lifestyle. We took off on a trip a week after we adopted him. We went for a weekend just 70 miles away. He is micro-chipped but I put a harness on him with a name tag on it. He goes into his crate and we carry it to the truck. He stays in the crate until we stop, that is the safest way to travel with him. I do keep my kitty accident bag in the truck in case he gets sick or has a potty accident. If we stop at a rest area he gets carried into the RV in his crate, once inside we let him out to feed, water and use the litter box. Then back into the crate and into the truck, he only gets out of the crate when he is in the RV, never for a walk or to just hang out in the truck. The crate is his safety net in case of a crash, plus the cat has learned that is where he goes for the trip and has come to find security in his crate. We used to spray Feliway in the truck before we left but he doesn't even make a sound anymore nor does he try to claw his way out of the crate. Our vet told us to keep the same routine, keep him safe in the crate in the backseat. She said if he can not see out the windows he will probably not get car sick and so far no sickness or potty accidents. If for some reason we have to take him out of the crate I keep the leash handy and he has the harness on, so far no need for that either. We do not uncrate him until we have all three slides out, he freaked out once when I let him out before the slides were out. He is an indoor cat only, but that's not to say if the door is open and another cat or bird walks by he won't go after it. He is an animal and no matter what we think all animals have unpredictable behavior. So we try to be mindful not to leave the doors open. I did try the leash out and I learned my lesson, I thought I'd try walking him on the leash, it was fine until he heard a car drive by. He freaked big time, not being used to the harness may have made it worse. He went into flight or fight mode, of course I had the leash so that only left him to fight to protect himself from what he thought was going to harm him. I of course then became scratched, bitten and observed how frightened and stressed he became. My vet told me sometimes just even putting a collar or harness on a cat that isn't used to it the cat will freak out and jump all over, hiss, bite, claw and try to get away from it. So, he wears the harness and stays in the crate until he is moved to an inside secure location. The vet also said that campgrounds are the worse places for pets because many pets have been there before us. She said many pets as well as raccoons, skunks, etc, have urinated, pooped and probably vomited in the same spots that we would walk our pets in. Not to mention fleas, ticks and other creatures, then she threw in our animals paws have all that on them when they go back into the RV and hop up on our bed. Lovely thought! So, I say give the camping a try, just be careful and I advise keeping them in the crates until you get the RV parked and slides open. We have made 9 trips in a year with no problems and it has worked out well. The cat realizes he gets more lap time when we RV than when we're home and boy does he take advantage of it.

katykwilt 06-29-2013 12:05 PM

We have two 19 year old cats, one has medication twice a day -- so they go with us rather than pay for someone to come in that often. They ride in the back seat of the truck when we're traveling and get moved to the trailer when we arrive. After three years with a small trailer, we just got a new unit that's 36' with 3 slides, so there is plenty of room. The first two times we went out there was some discussion from the back seat, but now they seem to like it -- took a while for them to get used to the new trailer, but it's working and I'm glad. So much less worry.

Things that may help:
1. I put them in the truck about 5 minutes before we leave (if it isn't too hot). They get all the "talk" out of the way before we start.
2. There is catnip growing in the yard -- a few nibbles about an hour before we leave each time, seems to enervate them a bit, then they get sleepy quicker.
3. I put a litter box and water in the truck, but no food for 2 or 3 hours before we hit the road.
4. Take a copy of their vaccinations with you -- some campgrounds require them.
5. Use a product to fight fleas and ticks on them too. Can't be too careful.

Have fun!

PS -- the reason we have such a big unit --- I have the bedroom in back as my sewing/quilting room. It has a double bunk on one side, and an upper bunk on the other (above an outside kitchen that really should be fabric storage). The double bunk area is now cleared out, replaced with a table and chair. The storage under the other bunk and along the back is perfect for "my" stuff. A flannel sheet gets tucked under that mattress and serves as a design wall. The third slide is in this room, so have plenty of room for a litter box too. I just love it!

maryquitecontrary 06-29-2013 03:36 PM

We go camping with our 4 dogs and a cat in a travel trailer. Our cat loves it! When he sees his crate he runs in because he know he gets to go camping. He spends most of his time in the trailer looking out the windows, when he isn't sleeping that is.


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