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cassie69emt 02-27-2012 04:54 AM

Need advice on toy chichi/yorkie pup
 
I have the great task of puppy sitting for DD while she is gone for a wekk training for new job.I thought how hard can this be? Was not ready for 1:45 am wake up call .How can I get this puppy to sleep all night long and not during the day ? Vet told her to feed her 3 times a day but I am afraid she is feeding her too late at night between 6& 7,could this be why she is having accidents at night? PLEAAAAAAASSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEE I beg of all of you for ideas I can not do another mid early morning thing can't think straight .Thank you all for you advice in advance.:shock:

Sunnie 02-27-2012 05:04 AM

When I sell a puppy I recommend feeding at 7, 12, and 5. I also recommend picking up the water by 7 PM. Then take the puppy out just before your bedtime making sure it does all of its business. Also depending on age, place the crate next to your bed and when it fusses place your fingers in the openings. Listen for the difference between "I'm lonely" and "I gotta go NOW". Best of luck.</SPAN>

TanyaL 02-27-2012 05:21 AM

How old is the pup? How loud is the pup? Could you put the pup and crate with a stuffed animal inside or a cuddle pillow in a room far enough away that you wouldn't hear it during the night? Many pups sleep unattended at night.

SuzanneG 02-27-2012 05:56 AM

You don't say how old the pup is, but young puppies will most definitely have to go out in the middle of the night no matter what time you feed them. It's just like having a baby in the house - you can't tell them to sleep through the night without pottying either. :)

If the pup is older and capable of going all night, (and is getting you up to poo, not pee), then feeding later at night might solve the problem. Dogs take approximately 8 hours to digest their food. So, if you feed the pup at 7 at night, she will need to poo around 3:00 in the morning. So, you can move her last feeding to right before bedtime and she should make it till morning.

If she's getting you up to pee, then you'll just have to remind yourself it's only for a week and then she'll go home and you'll get your sleep again. A crate might help, but ONLY if she is used to one and even then, if she needs to potty, then you'll still have to get up and let her out. Pups are a LOT of work and take a huge time and effort commitment. Lucky for you, it's only a week.:)

skrucker 02-27-2012 07:54 AM

I agree with Sunnie on the feeding and water. Also whenever I've gotten a puppy, I always put a wind up alarm clock in the bed with the puppy. The ticking of the clock always seemed to calm them. Just remember NOT to set the alarm to go off. That doesn't work out too well. Just ask me how I know!

nycquilter 02-27-2012 10:07 AM

puppies can only hold their water for one hour for each month of age. A one-month old can wait up to one hour between peeing. A two-month old can wait two hours. So, no matter when you feed the pup, s/he may be too young to sleep through the night. It's just the way it is...

Jingle 02-27-2012 01:55 PM

I wear foam earplugs to bed. My dog Cookie is around 4 years old and likes to get up about 4:30 or 5:00AM, use to be 3:30. Her crate is next to me, I never hear her, Husband hears her and takes her out. Works quite well for me.

SuzanneG 02-27-2012 03:18 PM

I'm sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree with lifting a puppies water at night. Puppies can dehydrate quickly. Beyond that, denying them water when they are thirsty is plain wrong just so we might get a good night's sleep.

Puppies are WORK!:) I have a nine month old pup, so not too long ago, I was traveling down that sleep-deprived road. But I took on the responsibility, so I have to do what's best for her, not easiest for me.

Interestingly enough, I have a good friend who got a puppy at the same time I got Piper. She insisted on pulling up her dog's water bowl at 6:00 every evening. At that time, my pup was in a crate beside my bed at night and had a bowl of water in there with her. I could hear her take a sip every now and then through the night. In the end, her puppy took just as long to make it through the night as Piper did, about 2-3 weeks. So her pup went thirsty for nothing since he still had to pee during the night, same as my pup that had access to water 24/7.

So, let the pup have access to water all the time and feed her later at night. If she has to pee, you have to get up and let her out. That's all part of the deal when you get a young pup. Feeding later will take care of the poo problem since she won't have to go until morning.

I noticed in your original post, you said the pup is having accidents at night. If you get up as soon as you hear her, then you can get her outside before accidents happen. You can't ask a puppy to wait. They simply aren't good at that yet.:) The pup is doing her part by letting you know she has to go, you have to do yours by getting up and letting her out.:)

Tink's Mom 02-27-2012 04:25 PM

Tinkerbelle is a Chihuahua...she is 5 years old, but still needs to go out occasionally during the night. If she is really whining, I get her outside. Please leave water for the pup, chihuahua's have a tendancy to have episodes similar to low blood sugar and should have water and a few nibbles of kibble at all times...
Have you considered a peepee pad for overnight? We have one under our dining room table for emergency use during the winter and for overnights. Tink understands that it is not for regular use, and will let us know she needs out...but...if I'm not home and she can't wait....I would prefer the pad than anywhere else.

fishhavengirl 02-27-2012 05:16 PM

She is adorable......sweet little furbaby!

cassie69emt 02-27-2012 05:16 PM

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This pup is 2 months old,today she decided to change her eating habits and I tried to keep her up towards the later part of night.Between changing her food over and eating times I think we are doing better we have her in a crate the small size which is still way big for her lol. Today she seemed as if she was just going pee around the house as if she was marking her territory every few inches she would dribble a bit and I COULD NOT get to her in time.Well 6 days and counting I guess is the only way to look at it.Thanks all I appreciate all of your help and thought I would add a picture of Emme for all of you [ATTACH=CONFIG]315981[/ATTACH]

DogHouseMom 02-27-2012 06:33 PM

I agree with Sunnie. Sunnie and I are both breeders - we've raised more than a few puppies :)

Feed earlier in the day and remove the water at night.

Puppies DO NOT need water throughout the night. IF he does NEED it, there is a different and more serious underlying problem that needs to be address by the vet.

Puppies generally poop shortly after their meals. This is a carry over from when they were new born. Immediately after nursing (often during) mom will lick their bottoms to encourage elimination. Without the licking, they wouldn't poop. When we have to hand raise puppies we have to wipe their bottoms with warm rag to get them to poop. This "habit" quite often will remain with the dog throughout their lifetime (my 12 year old still poops immediately after a meal). So if you feed her earlier, she should poop for you well before bedtime.

Good luck!

jollyquilting 02-27-2012 06:58 PM

The baby has to be really tiny and his little bladder just doesn't have a big enough one to get through the night and probably is active during the day too. He sounds oh so adorable.

Champagnolle 02-28-2012 06:34 AM

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I'm fostering 4 puppies from a litter of 13 abandoned at the gate to the local pound. I've had them a week now and they are about 4 or 5 weeks old. Of course, they are way too young to be housebroken, but they are doing all of their pooping and most of their peeing outside. I don't wait until they act like they need to go out. I wake them up every few hours and take them out. They wet as soon as their feet hit the ground.

They sleep pretty much through the night without crying. They have each other for comfort. They do go to the puppy pads on the end of their big kennel to wet during the night and then go back to their bed end to sleep.

BTW, my cutting board is on top of the big kennel. It is just the right height!

I do hope they find homes. Of course, I'm in love with them.

QuiltingCrazie 02-28-2012 06:42 AM

I had a miniature Yorkie puppy. Bear lives with my parents right now. We used puppy pads. Your sitting and your home is a new place not the puppies home. Puppy pads will make your life easier if you don't hear him or her in the night. It would take longer then a week for the puppy to get used to their new environment. Good luck and you might want to ask your daughter if she lets the puppy sleep with her. lol Have fun and enjoy you have a few days left!

quiltmom04 02-28-2012 06:46 AM

I was told that when the puppy whined at night to go out and it was still in the crate, just to reach in and get it and not to let its feet hit the floor till it was outside. It seemed to work for us. Didn't cut down on the amount of times we had to go out, just on the accidents on the floor on the way out! Just a thought !

SuzanneG 02-28-2012 08:04 AM

Sorry, but breeders aren't trainers/behaviorists. The problem is, as humans, we are hardwired to always do whats always been done. In other words, we hate change. But change can, and often is, good. I won't argue repeatedly about why it's wrong to feed early and pull up water with a little puppy, except to say that this "advice" is always given with the sole purpose of making the human's life easier, not what's in the best interest of the puppy. I would hope though that as people who make their living off of animals, and in the interest of doing what is best for dogs (and in educating properly future pet owners) you would educate yourselves on this subject instead of going with what's always been done and promoting outdated, unnecessary and potentially harmful information to dog owners.

LindaR 02-28-2012 08:15 AM

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My chorky is only 4 months old and I have no problem at night....she goes to her carrier (in my bedroom) so she knows I'm there...sometimes around 6AM she may have to go out but goes right back in the carrier. She does have more problems during the day but she is very young. good luck, they are such a job!

DogHouseMom 02-28-2012 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by SuzanneG (Post 5015915)
Sorry, but breeders aren't trainers/behaviorists. The problem is, as humans, we are hardwired to always do whats always been done. In other words, we hate change. But change can, and often is, good. I won't argue repeatedly about why it's wrong to feed early and pull up water with a little puppy, except to say that this "advice" is always given with the sole purpose of making the human's life easier, not what's in the best interest of the puppy. I would hope though that as people who make their living off of animals, and in the interest of doing what is best for dogs (and in educating properly future pet owners) you would educate yourselves on this subject instead of going with what's always been done and promoting outdated, unnecessary and potentially harmful information to dog owners.

Please don't assume that I (or probably Sunnie) have not *educated* ourselves, or that we are not *trainers*, or *behaviorists*. Speaking for myself ... I have hundreds of hours of formal and informal education and training in all of the above fields as well as raising litters of puppies and raising at least one puppy from each of those litters to adulthood.

Nor should you assume that I do any of this out of convenience for my own life style. There is in fact nothing about raising puppies or adult dogs that I find "convenient" in any sense of the word.

Nor do I even come CLOSE to *making a living* off of animals. My breeding program is in fact a enormous expense and I rarely recoup a fraction of my costs. I didn't, and won't, do it for the money.

So please don't assume you know what you are talking about when you are speaking about my breeding program.

Sadiemae 02-28-2012 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by SuzanneG (Post 5014006)
I'm sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree with lifting a puppies water at night. Puppies can dehydrate quickly. Beyond that, denying them water when they are thirsty is plain wrong just so we might get a good night's sleep.

My JoJo sleeps in a crate at night. If I give him water in his crate he either spills it, or he pulls his blankie and puts it in the water dish. He drinks plenty of water all day long and I really don't want him sleeping on a wet, soggy blankie.:):):)

Marijeaux 02-28-2012 01:29 PM

We have two Scottish Terriers and when they were babies, we did lift their water at 7 pm. If I felt they needed a drink, I gave them an ice cube. Our oldest terrier took a week or so before he stopped soiling his crate. With the youngest it was two days. We took them out immediately after a meal and just before going to bed at night. These two are raw fed.

sewred 02-29-2012 06:04 AM

Also you might try playing with her before putting her to bed the little thing will tire out and sleep for a while but yes they do wake up quite often at night!

labtechkty 02-29-2012 02:35 PM

Our baby is 7 years old and we still have an occasional nightly run...sometimes I think he just wants to go out just to check things out...I leave water for him 24/7 as well..


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