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Sloan Quinn 12-28-2010 12:58 AM

Well, I just woke up to my littlest little bear throwing up all over his bed...he did a number on it. So I got him cleaned up, got the sheets (and the stuffed puppy) in the wash, moved him and his brother, who shares the room and therefore the smell, into the guest room, and was just getting ready to tuck them back in when the older one (Nic) starts to ask something "on behalf of" his brother. Now this has always bothered me, because they do it the other way around too, so I told Colton to ask me himself.

I was not expecting him to ask for PERMISSION to run to the bathroom if he had to throw up again! The poor boy thought we would be mad if he left his room to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night.

Now, these kids have been traumatized in the last couple of years by the still fairly recent (in the grand scheme of things) divorce of their daddy (my DH) and mommy (who is pretty crazy, all things considered). DH's ex-wife basically tried to make him into a giant evil bogeyman that does nothing but drink, yell, and beat little children. (For the record, he does not drink around the kids, yell NEARLY as much as she tries to say he does, and I have never seen him so much as swat the hand of either of those boys. The most physical I've ever seen him get was to push the younger one out of the way of his size 13 workboot when the young one ran into Daddy's legs.) I had thought we were over that - the ex-wife seemed to be behaving, while not reasonable, at least not in a villifying manner towards DH, and the boys always seem very happy to come to our house and spend time with me and their Daddy. And now this.

Please, has anyone else ever seen this? I don't understand how things could get to the point of a child throwing up in his bed when he could have made it to the bathroom (and I asked - Colton said he would have made it.)

Did we do something wrong? And how oh how can we fix it?

Magdalena 12-28-2010 01:09 AM

All I can say is continue to reassure the children that you love them and that they are home. They will feel it in their heart and see it with their own eyes that they are safe with both of you. My prayers go out to all of you.

loopywren 12-28-2010 02:13 AM

You don't say their age but I guess they are quite small.. all you can really do is tell them you love them, give lots of hugs and reassure them whenever you can.. children are pretty good at eventually working things out for themselves. Best of luck, I know it isn't easy for any of you.

loopywren 12-28-2010 02:14 AM

Sorry forgot to say I don't think you did anything wrong

patricej 12-28-2010 03:01 AM

i'm not discounting your description of situation. but it's at least possible this has nothing to do with what he's heard from "her".

how often do we tell our children to go to bed and stay there? that doesn't make us bad parents. we usually forget to give them the list of reasons we hope they'd get up anyway when it's really the best thing to do.

praise him for being a good son and "citizen of the household" and then tell him it's ok to get up if he needs to visit the toidy, to let you know he's sick, etc.

grownups are as confusing to kids as they can be to us. it may be that a little clarity is the only thing needed in this situation. ;-)

dgmoby 12-28-2010 03:50 AM

One other thing...you might explain, someday when it's comfortable chatting with the kids, that each house (mommy & daddy's) has different rules. If they're confused, or not sure, please ask - you'll be happy to clarify. Explain it like, 'If someone is ill or needs to use the bathroom, you're certainly allowed to get up and go...but not to play for 30 minutes when we're supposed to be trying to go to sleep.' and 'It's always OK to wake me up when you're sick - that's what I'm here for! I want to know if you're sick so I can help you.' or any other real situations you can think of. They will understand then, and more with time, that each house has separate guidelines and daddy's is not evil...no matter WHO says it is. I find kids can (and do) understand and get used to these ideas very quickly.

(And maybe this is a rule in their own house, and they simply ASSUMED it was in your's as well? Maybe it's mommy's rule after all?)

Just a thought...
Debbie in Austin

redvette54 12-28-2010 04:36 AM

My heart goes out to you, it's not easy being a step-mother. I have 3 step-children and they are grown now. I've been in their lives for 5 years now. The youngest was 14 when I married my husband. They used to think badly of their Dad, many of the same reasons you listed and more. After many long talks with my step-son, it took awhile, but he has figured out his mother and her lying. He's 22 and she's still lies about everything. I've told him, he needs to just accept her as she is and respect her because she is his mother and let the lies go in one ear and out the other. It won't take long for the kids to figure out whats going on. PM me if you want to chat.

trueimage 12-28-2010 04:39 AM

Maybe it was just because he wasn't feeling well. Everyone has odd behavior when they're sick. He may have thought you were mad that he had thrown up and made a mess. When mine were little and sick I always placed a trashcan or huge bowl next to them where ever they were. 'Just in case'. Hope the kiddos are feeling better soon.

ameriguat 12-28-2010 04:52 AM

I came from a bad childhood. I won't go into detail but I can say when kids feel threatened or told firmly not to do things they do two things. 1) they do them, because they want attention (I was that kind LOL) or 2) they don't do it because they are scared of what might happen.

The only thing you can do is love them. Its that simple. Of course you should sit down with them (like above comments) and reassure them that if they're sick they're not going to get into trouble and just come to you. It will get better with time but they need trust. If they can trust and love you, they'll come to you.

The reason why they get each other to come and ask questions for them is that you won't get mad at the person asking, and they feel safer that way. Don't get angry when they do it, just next time they do it go over to them, and sit down with them (AT EYE LEVEL) and talk to them in a calm voice. Yelling can do numerous things a child, from making them insecure or reflecting it on their peers.

Maride 12-28-2010 06:40 AM

Kids can not tell that they will be getting sick soon. My kids always did it on the bed until they were older. I got bed liners to protect their beds and did a lot of laundry. As of one talking on behalf of the other, is part of being siblings. They can probably complete each other sentences and since the little one is sick the older one feel protective. Remember that they spend time with you and your DH and time with Mom, but the only thing that is constant in their life is each other. Don't let it get you mad. Is normal behavior and I would be glad is there. They are showing real love and caring for each other and in the long run that is the best thing you can expect from them.


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