I was shopping at Hancock Fabrics on Saturday and there was a huge sale going on. I was standing at the cutting table and a lady brought a bobbin winder and asked how much it was; it ended up being $14.95, originally over $30!! The saleslady said that the ads usually exclude the winders, but THIS TIME the add didn't specify so the winder was included!!! I bought one because it was such a good deal and I really haven't mastered how to wind the spool on Moms old Singer. Hope this helps, the sale goes through sometime in March.