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Thread: Best invisible thread??

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    Best invisible thread??

    What is the best invisible thread? My Horizon's tension has a nervous breakdown with the stuff. I can do a sample piece and get the tension right. Then after FMQ for a little bit, it tangles and "eyelashes" like crazy. I've tried a couple different brands, Sulky is one of them. I use a cone holder to let the thread relax a bit before it gets to the machine. And I use a metalic needle with a large eye. Any help would be really appreciated.

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    I use YLI nylon filament, and have had none of the problems people warn about. Have occasionally tried other types of invisible thread and don't find them as "invisible" as the YLI.

    Mine is on a cone. I use a thread net on the cone and place it in a jar behind the machine. I use an "outrigger" -- just a stick with a hole on each end. One hole goes over the thread spool holder; the thread goes through the other hole.

    I use only metal bobbins; plastic bobbins are more likely to distort. When winding, I wind slowly to minimize the stretching of the thread and I fill the bobbin only 3/4ths full to make sure it does not distort the ends of the bobbin.

    Are you loosening the upper tension? I don't know how much polyester threads stretch, but the nylon stretches quite a bit, and this requires loosening the upper tension.

    Edit: I should add that I no longer FMQ with this thread, simply because I have found I prefer using Aurifil 50wt variegated for most projects. I still use the YLI for invisible machine applique, however; have never found an invisible thread that works better, and I have tried several.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denveremerson View Post
    What is the best invisible thread? My Horizon's tension has a nervous breakdown with the stuff. I can do a sample piece and get the tension right. Then after FMQ for a little bit, it tangles and "eyelashes" like crazy. I've tried a couple different brands, Sulky is one of them. I use a cone holder to let the thread relax a bit before it gets to the machine. And I use a metalic needle with a large eye. Any help would be really appreciated.

    The cone holder and letting it relax before it gets to the machine is the problem. You need to put invisible thread upright so it feeds off the side of the spool. When you feed it off the end of the cone it twists and it loosens the thread on the cone and lets it start pooling around the cone.

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    I haven't used any in a while, but I did prefer the poly to nylon. It seemed more supple, but that may have just been the brand I was using. I used small spools, placed without any support in a coffee cup behind the sewing machine. I don't remember doing anything else special for this thread, and I don't remember using it at all in the bobbin.

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    Have you considered invisfil?

    http://www.softexpressions.com/softw...ads/WNInvF.php

    It is not a clear monofiliment but it is so fine, it is like silk and sinks right into the fabric.

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    I agree with Scissor Queen. Try to minimize any twisting the thread does between the cone and your machine. I've used both Sulky and Superior with success.

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    I like the Superior Mono Poly thread because you can iron on it and it doesn't melt. I think the nylon threads have a lower melting point and also can melt in the dryer. Just IMHO.

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    Being that you have a Janome ... do you have the blue dot bobbin case? and are you using their FMQ foot (not the darning foot)? Both are add-ons that would not come with your machine, but are well worth the investment. I don't know if they will help with your invisible thread, but the blue dot is for tension issues, and the special foot is definitely a breeze for FMQ in comparison to the standard darning foot.

    I'd also suggest you talk with your dealer and ask for their suggestions/solutions to your problems.

    Ditto to the 100 wt Invisafil ... Or if you want a little more thickness then get their 80 wt DecoBob thread. Both are almost invisable and do a really nice job.
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    I use lots of invisable thread . I do like the invisble from Superior thread. Contrary to what many use... I find I have the best sucess with the smallest needle 70/10. The thread is so fine there is not much need for a big needle. Letting the thread relax is important for sucess as well. Just last night I was using some on a spool and not a cone... I set the spool a good 6 inches from the machine and let it feed. Most machines work best with invisable when the upper thread tension is loosened, each machine will have its own "adjustment" factor .. so do have a sample sandwich to fine tune the tension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltE View Post
    ... the blue dot is for tension issues ...
    To clarify ... the blue dot is for tension issues re bobbin thread
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