Go Back  Quiltingboard Forums > Main
Difference between frames and LA? >

Difference between frames and LA?

Difference between frames and LA?

Thread Tools
 
Old 03-30-2010, 01:51 AM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Stummel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hampshire, UK
Posts: 258
Default

Sorry if this is a partcularly dumb question, but I just tried free motion quilting at a quilt show and it was a vendor of quilting frames. It was great.
Can someone explain the difference between those frames and a longarm machine? Is a LA just a large frame with the sewing machine bit included, whereas the frame is used with one's own machine or are there other differences?
Stummel is offline  
Old 03-30-2010, 05:31 AM
  #2  
Super Member
 
BKrenning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Lake Wales, FL, USA
Posts: 1,554
Default

That's part of it. True longarms are single purpose, industrial machines and cost many thousands of dollars more than the home style frames. They are usually sold with the sewing head and frame and include setup in the price--sometimes even training or camp. The big boys can have hydraulic lifts and auto quilt advance. There are also some midarms in this class--16-18" industrial machines. Some people are referring to even the 9" Juki TL98, Brother PQ1500, Pfaff GHQ1200, etc. as longarms but if you can pick it up and sit it on a table to hem curtains--it's not a longarm to my notion.
BKrenning is offline  
Old 03-30-2010, 09:24 AM
  #3  
Power Poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Western Wisconsin
Posts: 12,930
Default

Originally Posted by Stummel
Sorry if this is a partcularly dumb question, but I just tried free motion quilting at a quilt show and it was a vendor of quilting frames. It was great.
Can someone explain the difference between those frames and a longarm machine? Is a LA just a large frame with the sewing machine bit included, whereas the frame is used with one's own machine or are there other differences?
Some frames are sold for use with domestic sewing machines. These frames are very different than the ones used with longarm machines. With a longarm, the sewing machine itself has a lot of space under the arm, plus it sits on a carriage that sits on the frame. You move the longarm around to do your quilting. With the frames sold for domestic sewing machines, you move the frame around to do your quilting.

I can't tell for sure from your description which kind of frame you tried out. I'm assuming it was for a domestic machine?
Prism99 is offline  
Old 03-30-2010, 09:39 AM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Stummel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hampshire, UK
Posts: 258
Default

Thanks for the info! It was these ones:

http://marysiasquilts.co.uk/

They have freestanding ones, and some that sit on a table.
Stummel is offline  
Old 03-30-2010, 09:54 AM
  #5  
Super Member
 
Scissor Queen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Southwest Kansas
Posts: 4,820
Default

[quote=Prism99
. With the frames sold for domestic sewing machines, you move the frame around to do your quilting.

I can't tell for sure from your description which kind of frame you tried out. I'm assuming it was for a domestic machine?[/quote]

The only frame I know of for home machines that you move the frame and not the machine is the John Flynn frame. All the rest are three rail frames and the machine sits on a carriage.
Scissor Queen is offline  
Old 03-30-2010, 10:03 AM
  #6  
Power Poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Western Wisconsin
Posts: 12,930
Default

Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
The only frame I know of for home machines that you move the frame and not the machine is the John Flynn frame. All the rest are three rail frames and the machine sits on a carriage.
For the ones that sit on a carriage, are any of them useful with a regular domestic machine?
Prism99 is offline  
Old 03-30-2010, 10:18 AM
  #7  
Super Member
 
Oklahoma Suzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Home town: Rehoboth, MA Now living in OK
Posts: 7,774
Default

Originally Posted by BKrenning
That's part of it. True longarms are single purpose, industrial machines and cost many thousands of dollars more than the home style frames. They are usually sold with the sewing head and frame and include setup in the price--sometimes even training or camp. The big boys can have hydraulic lifts and auto quilt advance. There are also some midarms in this class--16-18" industrial machines. Some people are referring to even the 9" Juki TL98, Brother PQ1500, Pfaff GHQ1200, etc. as longarms but if you can pick it up and sit it on a table to hem curtains--it's not a longarm to my notion.
I agree.
Oklahoma Suzie is offline  
Old 03-30-2010, 10:24 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Pacific NW USA
Posts: 883
Default

Handi Quilter makes frames for use with domestic sewing machines, as well as for midarm or longarm machines. With these units the sewing machine is what is moving, the frame is stationary.

http://www.handiquilter.com/shop/pro...uilting-frame/
AtHomeSewing is offline  
Old 03-30-2010, 10:25 AM
  #9  
Super Member
 
Scissor Queen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Southwest Kansas
Posts: 4,820
Default

Originally Posted by Prism99
Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
The only frame I know of for home machines that you move the frame and not the machine is the John Flynn frame. All the rest are three rail frames and the machine sits on a carriage.
For the ones that sit on a carriage, are any of them useful with a regular domestic machine?
Yes. There are several different brands that are sold specifically for use with a regular domestic machine. You don't have a lot of space to quilt by the time you get a whole quilt rolled into the throat if it's big. Hinterberg and Grace are two brands that are sold for use with a domestic machine.
Scissor Queen is offline  
Old 03-30-2010, 10:27 AM
  #10  
Super Member
 
Scissor Queen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Southwest Kansas
Posts: 4,820
Default

The true difference between a true long arm machine and a home sewing machine is presser foot and needle orientation. On a home machine the presser foot and needle are oriented so they face the long side of the machine. On a true long arm they face the end of the machine.
Scissor Queen is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Girlfriend
Main
21
10-02-2013 12:13 PM
Central Ohio Quilter
Main
8
01-23-2013 06:15 PM
ctquilter
Main
22
08-16-2010 07:22 AM
bibiche
Main
4
01-22-2010 07:56 PM
kyssyfur
Main
1
05-01-2008 02:56 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



FREE Quilting Newsletter