I currently have a Juki with a 9 inch throat. I saw a Bailey 13 on craigslist, with a frame for $1500 I asked if he would sell it without the frame and he said $1200. I talked him down to $1000. It is 5 years old. He owns the Nolting company and someone traded it in for fa Nolting. He is delivering it in early July when he goes to a show in Denver.