and yep, regarding the start right frame, i have had the little plastic pin that holds the plastic cog wheel on the take up pole break twice, and Grace has replaced it both times. However, my husband rigged it after the 2nd break by replacing the plastic pin with a screw, and so far so good. But other than that issue, I do like the start right frame and their customer service.

This looks very similar to the Pfaff Grand quilter setup they have and it was priced around $3,200.

However I would caution you about how much quilting you want to do and how much space you want to be able to quilt at a time. Yes, it is nice that you can either do a crib or a king but it isn't a simple adjustment to go from one size to the other. I love Pfaff's but the setup like this one with the Grace frame and stuff was not at all what I thought it would be even tho it looked great and easy at the shows that I saw. I bought one brand new and hated every minute of it while I was trying to use it. I now have my Gammill and it is such a pleasure to work on and very secure and sturdy feeling.

Good luck,
Sherryl
Candlequilter

i'm a member of the bailey yahoo group as well. the members who have them swear by them! however, i already have a hinterberg stretch frame, so don't need a package. the hinterberg frame is the best, in my estimation. it is very sturdy and easy to put up and take down, by myself. i'm travelling to NY state this August and will visit the factory. the owner/maker, Chuck, answers all of your questions.

The price may be right, but the machine isn't. They say can do a King. There's no way to get much quilt roiled up between the neck and body of the machine. When buying a long arm, it's important that the neck be high enough to roll up the quilt to the end, unless you olike unpinning it, turning it around and repinning it.

Don't waste money on something that won't do what you want. If all you want is crib size and throws, a machine like this may be ok, but not for much else.

Lanny

Thanks raedar for bringing this up. Looks like a good deal. When we remodel/update our home, I will talk DH into a long arm machine for me.

Question then on throat space. Any chance when you get to the middle of the quilt, that you can turn it around and start quilting towards the other end?

Are there any machines that let you do this? Or do you have to choose a quilting design that's horizontal and not very wide. I've seen some beautiful feather quilting on this forum and was wondering how they did it without turning the quilt.

Have you used a Bailey? I have not completed a king on my Bailey 13, only queen (90" x 90") size with no problems and you may be correct about the throat size in regards to a king, I would not know, because I have not attempted to quilt a king first hand, however my frame will only accomodate a queen as well, just don't have the room for a frame that will accomodate a king size quilt. I did not 'waste' my money, I just don't see any reason to buy a mercedes when a chevy camaro looks better and gets the job done just as well.

I wish I could give you some 1st hand advise on the Bailey, but unfortunatly, I don't have one! :( I have done quite a bit of research however, and it seems to be a good machine. I joined the bailey yahoo group, and there have been good reviews. It is the machine that I will purchase when (and if) the time is right. I understand they offer great support also. I would only be doing quilting for myself, so the price of some of the other machines would not be an option for me.

I find this very interesting I have a med long arm but it is very old and you push it from you instead of sewing toward you. I can not buy anything right now but I am bookmarking this. Maybe one day :XD:

wow, great price

I know of several people who have the Bailey and do king sized quilts. If rolled properly and kept tight there is no problem. It is a really well made machine and frame and everyone who has one loves it. Customer service is fantastic. They are ready to help night or day and weekends too to keep everyone happy. Sounds like a winner to me.