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AngelinaMaria 11-14-2012 07:36 PM

Do You Know if There is A Pattern For This Quilt?? I Love This Quilt.
 
I somehow stumbled onto this image on the webpage and I am in love with this quilt. I love how the 9 patches on point border the quilt. Has anyone seen this in a pattern before? I would need pattern help to make the "on point 9 patches" work out in length with the rest of the quilt.

http://shari-chocolatebox.blogspot.c...ine-patch.html

MTS 11-14-2012 07:47 PM

From the pictures, it looks like it was just the 9patch on point, surrounded by 4 corner triangles (as opposed to using white setting triangles.)
Basically, a square in a square (the inner square being the 9 patch, which is the same size as the blocks in the quilt).


The key here is that red inner border, which is sized to make the border blocks fit exactly around the whole quilt.

Nicely done.
And in 1935, no less.

MTS 11-14-2012 08:19 PM

Assuming the 9-patches are 3" FINISHED, then the border square-in-a-square blocks would be 4.25" FINISHED.

(FINISHED size x 1.414" to get the FINISHED on-point width of a block)

The inner border width is 2.25" FINISHED.

Using those measurements, the quilt top would be ~ 85"x103" when fully assembled.

virtualbernie 11-14-2012 08:31 PM

Looks like an Irish Chain quilt bordered by a plain 1st border then 9 patches on point. Missouri Star Quilt Co. has a YouTube tute on how to make an Irish Chain quilt.

AngelinaMaria 11-14-2012 08:46 PM

Wow, MTS, you have a very sharp quilter's mind. Thanks. I am working on an Ohmigosh quilt and this little 9 patch quilt looks like a much smaller headache. I am going to have left a good portion of my 54 different fat quarters so I may do this quilt sometime in the future.

virtualbernie 11-14-2012 08:58 PM

I'm a dufus! Didn't read all of the question....Please ignore my post :o

MTS 11-14-2012 09:01 PM

Only 54 fabrics? :p

That Ohmigosh quilt is quite an undertaking.
I've seen if before but I didn't realize it was a Sue Garmen design.
She's so talented - an amazing designer.
Her BOM's for The Quilt Show were gorgeous.

Good luck with both quilts.

AngelinaMaria 11-14-2012 09:04 PM

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Here is a little peak at some of my Ohmigosh progress:

MTS 11-14-2012 09:10 PM

What a lovely happy quilt!!!!

I am such a sucker for color/value gradiations.

Love it!!

Thanks for posting the pics.

justflyingin 11-14-2012 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by AngelinaMaria (Post 5657718)
Here is a little peak at some of my Ohmigosh progress:

It's beautiful!

Teddybear Lady 11-14-2012 09:39 PM

Fresh, bright colors. I love it! Very pretty pattern! :thumbup:

GrannieAnnie 11-15-2012 12:40 AM


Originally Posted by virtualbernie (Post 5657685)
Looks like an Irish Chain quilt bordered by a plain 1st border then 9 patches on point. Missouri Star Quilt Co. has a YouTube tute on how to make an Irish Chain quilt.

I agree, looks like the simplest Irish Chain, which is just a 9 patch with the four corners and the center in colors. Can't get much easier.

annthreecats 11-15-2012 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by GrannieAnnie (Post 5657854)
I agree, looks like the simplest Irish Chain, which is just a 9 patch with the four corners and the center in colors. Can't get much easier.

Right, it's a single Irish Chain. There's a cool video on how to make one on Youtube done by Jenny Doan of Missouri Star Quilting Company. I'm making a baby quilt for a co-working in the Irish Chain Pattern. Fun and simple.

MTS 11-15-2012 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by GrannieAnnie (Post 5657854)
I agree, looks like the simplest Irish Chain, which is just a 9 patch with the four corners and the center in colors. Can't get much easier.

If that was the ONLY version of the block you made, you wouldn't get the same design as Elizabeth's lovely quilt.

QuiltnNan 11-15-2012 04:54 AM

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this is probably one of the situations where EQ7 would be better, but this one i designed in my EQ5. the quilt is 66x66 with borders of 1.5, 3, and 1.5. i cannot get the measurements for the patches of the 9p on point [i could probably do that with graph paper as the 9p's are 3" diagonally]. the inner blocks are 3".

MTS 11-15-2012 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by GrannieAnnie (Post 5657854)
I agree, looks like the simplest Irish Chain, which is just a 9 patch with the four corners and the center in colors. Can't get much easier.


Originally Posted by MTS (Post 5658007)
If that was the ONLY version of the block you made, you wouldn't get the same design as Elizabeth's lovely quilt.

Sorry, GrannieAnnie, I read your post, incorrectly, as referring to the Irish Chain block (the larger double(?) 9-patch block ), and not the single 9-patch.

(Only because that's the way I would construct it.)

My bad.

MTS 11-15-2012 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by QuiltnNan (Post 5658090)
t i cannot get the measurements for the patches of the 9p on point [i could probably do that with graph paper as the 9p's are 3" diagonally]. the inner blocks are 3".

On your version, the 9-patches blocks used in the border would FINISH at 2-1/8, not a really fun size (17/8) to divide by 3.

3 / 1.414 = 2.122 ...round up to 2.125"

The beauty of Elizabeth's quilt is that the inner and outer 9-patches are the same size.

eta: Not Elizabeth, but Shari's mom.

ghostrider 11-15-2012 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by MTS (Post 5657615)
Nicely done.
And in 1935, no less.

The quote, from Elizabeth Ryan DeCoursey's book, is from 1935...the quilt, made by the blogger's mother, is new. :)

MTS 11-15-2012 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by ghostrider (Post 5658135)
The quote, from Elizabeth Ryan DeCoursey's book, is from 1935...the quilt, made by the blogger's mother, is new. :)

Ah, so it is.

Still impressive.

QuiltnNan 11-15-2012 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by MTS (Post 5658132)
On your version, the 9-patches blocks used in the border would FINISH at 2-1/8, not a really fun size (17/8) to divide by 3.

3 / 1.414 = 2.122 ...round up to 2.125"

The beauty of Elizabeth's quilt is that the inner and outer 9-patches are the same size.

eta: Not Elizabeth, but Shari's mom.

since you are so good at the math, how wide does the on point border have to be to make the 9p's the same size as the inner section, 3" ?

MTS 11-15-2012 05:38 AM

Answered upthread.

If the inner 9-patches are 3" FINISHED, the S-in-a-S in the outside border, in conjunction with a correctly-sized inner border (to make it all flow smoothly), would be 4.25" FINISHED

3 x 1.414 = 4.24 , rounded up to 4.25" (and that rounding will cause a minimal amount of easing when attaching the borders)


The 1.414 is just another of those frequently used numbers (like the 7/8" and 1.25") that is helpful to know., especially when dealing with on-point calculations (either way).
Just make sure you always start with the FINISHED size of the block.

ghostrider 11-15-2012 05:52 AM

Or if you REALLY hate math, use the chart for diagonals of a square.
http://www.karencombs.com/finding_th...f_a_square.htm

joyce888 11-15-2012 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by AngelinaMaria (Post 5657718)
Here is a little peak at some of my Ohmigosh progress:

I love this! Curious what size is your blocks?

QuiltnNan 11-15-2012 06:57 AM

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thanks MTS and ghostrider. after some finegling, i got a quilt worked out. what i had been trying to avoid is the thicker inner border. this one is 89.5x89.5 and has borders of 2.25, 4.25, and 2.25

GwenLawson 11-15-2012 07:03 AM

I am not sure that I would do the border on point. Why not sew a right triangle on opposite sides of your nine patch? One of the right angles would go at the top and the other one on the bottom. Then you could sew those units together on the diagonal. I would cut the right triangles with the long side on the straight of grain to avoid the edges stretching out of shape.

MTS 11-15-2012 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by QuiltnNan (Post 5658407)
trying to avoid is the thicker inner border. this one is 89.5x89.5 and has borders of 2.25, 4.25, and 2.25

Unfortunately, you can't avoid the border.....it either has to be there AND that width, or eliminated completely (which, maybe if you changed the background on the border blocks, could be an interesting alternative).

FYI - on the sashing, assuming we're all are perfectionist when it comes to piecing (not me), in actuality, the top and bottom inner borders should be 2" wide FINISHED, while the side inner borders should be 2.25" wide FINISHED.

It can all be eased in if they're cut the same width, but that's the way the math works out.

MTS 11-15-2012 07:59 AM

Not to go OT, but just a side note since QuiltNan mentioned it a couple of times....

For examples like this, EQ5 is just as good as EQ7.

The one I worked up in EQ7 doesn't look any different than yours.
I probably went about it and used the exact same menu options, etc. that you did.

That's why in my posts when answering a thread on the subject, I sometimes suggest buying a used copy of EQ5 (which has no installation/security/registration* issues - and I always thought was stable enough - better than EQ6, for sure) as an alternative to buying the full new latest version, especially if budget was an issue, and/or the buyer wasn't "sure" it was worth it.

And I'd venture that the majority of EQ users (regardless of the version) are doing the same sort of stuff like we did on this thread.

I've seen amazing creations in EQ - I'm in awe - but there are, I'm sure, countless features that I'm not using because they don't pertain to the quilts I design and make, or I don't know about them.
Yet. ;-)

Sort of like Excel.....25+ years using it, from the beginning, and pretty intensively, and there's still stuff in there that's new to me.

*Not that you can even upgrade to v7 off of EQ5 anyway, but I heard somewhere, not too long ago, that EQ's official file of EQ5 registered licenses (w/serial numbers) was kaput.

crafterrn1 11-15-2012 08:21 AM

Thanks for the practice. I designed mine in EQ7 it was fun playing! It will be a great scrap quilt! Uses a lot of 1.5 inch strips. Luann in CT

AngelinaMaria 11-15-2012 12:28 PM

Not sure if QuiltnNan or MTS are still checking in here but I was wondering if there is a way to make it a bit smaller (closer to a lap/throw size) and still have the border (on point 9 patches) work? I imagine there are only a limited number of sizes that this will work out correctly.

haylillan 11-15-2012 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by AngelinaMaria (Post 5657606)
I somehow stumbled onto this image on the webpage and I am in love with this quilt. I love how the 9 patches on point border the quilt. Has anyone seen this in a pattern before? I would need pattern help to make the "on point 9 patches" work out in length with the rest of the qui
http://shari-chocolatebox.blogspot.c...ine-patch.html

yes im pretty sure that pattern is a irsh chain

LyndaOH 11-15-2012 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by AngelinaMaria (Post 5659196)
Not sure if QuiltnNan or MTS are still checking in here but I was wondering if there is a way to make it a bit smaller (closer to a lap/throw size) and still have the border (on point 9 patches) work? I imagine there are only a limited number of sizes that this will work out correctly.

It will work with almost any size center as long as you figure the inside border width correctly. That's why I love EQ so much; I can bump up the border width until it does match perfectly.

LyndaOH 11-15-2012 01:19 PM

In the version of the quilt on Elizabeth's site, are there two different colors of background used in the alternating quarter square triangles? I wondered if that was the reason to do QSTs instead of just setting squares.Or maybe I'm just seeing an illusion created by the quilting?

lfstamper 11-15-2012 01:23 PM

Gorgeous quilt - OMG!

ghostrider 11-15-2012 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by AngelinaMaria (Post 5659196)
Not sure if QuiltnNan or MTS are still checking in here but I was wondering if there is a way to make it a bit smaller (closer to a lap/throw size) and still have the border (on point 9 patches) work? I imagine there are only a limited number of sizes that this will work out correctly.

Well, I'm neither QuiltnNan nor MTS, but here are the steps to get a pieced border to fit without using EQ.
1. Measure the length and width of the top across the center. Subtract ½" from each measurement to get the finished length and width.
2. Determine the number of border design repeats you'll need for each border. Round up any partial units for a whole number of repeats.
3. Multiply the number of whole repeats by the length of the repeat unit to determine the actual finished length of each pieced border.
4. Determine the width of the 'coping strips' (aka, the narrow inner border) needed to bring the quilt top up to the size of the borders.
5. Add the corner square.

MTS 11-15-2012 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by LyndaOH (Post 5659287)
It will work with almost any size center as long as you figure the inside border width correctly. That's why I love EQ so much; I can bump up the border width until it does match perfectly.

You still have to be careful as it can look like the blocks are fitting in the border but don't really.

I usually resort to scribbling on paper just to double check.

Case in point - this quilt today.

The version I created and was playing with was a rectangle (I was trying to duplicate the quilt in the picture)- I had the layout set at 8x9 double 9-patch blocks, each block was 9".

I originally had 19 blocks (just by hitting the arrow to increase the number of blocks) for the vertical borders and it looked fine, but it really wasn't.
It needed to be 20, and the top and bottom borders needed to be reduced by .5" to make it come out perfectly (mathematically).


Originally Posted by LyndaOH (Post 5659294)
In the version of the quilt on Elizabeth's site, are there two different colors of background used in the alternating quarter square triangles? I wondered if that was the reason to do QSTs instead of just setting squares.Or maybe I'm just seeing an illusion created by the quilting?

Exactly, you can see the seam lines if you zoom in on the border in the picture.

For me it's usually a toss-up on which method to use...is it a scrappy background? would the fabric cuts stand out too much? how I'm feeling that day?
I don't think one is harder or more work than the other...it sort of balances out.

MTS 11-15-2012 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by AngelinaMaria (Post 5659196)
if there is a way to make it a bit smaller (closer to a lap/throw size) and still have the border (on point 9 patches) work? I.

What do you call a throw size?

The one below is 67.5" x77" (as shown, not including the outside solid border).
You can add that on...or not and just bind it.

I alternated the coloring for the double-9-patch blocks so you can see them more easily.
The block layout is 6x7.

The inner borders are FINISHED 2.75" on the sides, and FINISHED 2.5" top and bottom.
Again, over the distance, it could certainly be eased in.

If you have an different approx measurement in mind (or shape - do prefer square?), post and I'll get as close to it as I can.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]376752[/ATTACH]

AngelinaMaria 11-15-2012 05:11 PM

MTS, thanks for helping so much. The 67.5 by 77 is really a perfect size for me. I can't open your attachment. I get an Invalid Attachment specified message. Not sure what that is?? I would love to see your image and print it with your math calculations for when I make this quilt. I dreamt about it last night for hours so I definately have to make it.

MTS 11-15-2012 05:31 PM

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So weird.
I saw the pic when I posted it - at least I think I did.
I'm beginning to think the trick is that you have to post ALL the pictures first before you add anything to the reply box, and then add your text around the pictures.

Let's try again.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]376799[/ATTACH]

FYI - for this coloration and size , according to EQ, you will need the following yardage:

Background - 5-1/4
Purple - 2-1/4 (incl inner border, excl outer border).
Red - 3/4

Please note the background amount is a bit inflated because of the way EQ calculates yardage of the triangles and squares on point.

AngelinaMaria 11-15-2012 05:39 PM

Thanks MTS, that is great. I have copied and saved to a word file. I think it looks so neat with the 9 patches on point around the outside border!!!

Grace MooreLinker 11-16-2012 05:30 AM

Looks like a single Irish chain to me.


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