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quiltingnd 03-04-2013 11:53 AM

FMQ....I don't think its for me.
 
I just don't think my brain can grasp free motion quilting. I've tried on a few practice pieces...but I tend to freeze and panic. I can't even imagine trying on a bigger piece if I can't even FMQ something as small as a placemat. I feel so frustrated.:(

Ranchwife 03-04-2013 12:10 PM

I have to draw (well, actually trace) the pattern I'm going to use when I quilt. I can't draw for the life of me and I don't doodle at all. My "doodling" consists of writing my name in cursive and coloring in the spaces in closed letters on the document that I'm using. I am amazed at people who can FMQ without having the pattern drawn on first. I don't know how they do it and make it so perfect.

hopetoquilt 03-04-2013 12:13 PM

Take your time. From what I understand, it takes several weeks of practice to really get the hang of it. Some people take more time, some take less. Research different strategies. Some people use gloves or super sliders, etc

quiltingfan 03-04-2013 12:26 PM

Try a simple meandering and just stick with that for awhile. The fancy stuff can come later.

Sheepshed 03-04-2013 12:31 PM

Some placemats are pretty big... how about a 12x12 or 15 x 15 inch piece made from some muslin and cheap battng you can afford to just *doodle* on ? And right, if you want to stencil somethng on first, and try to follow the lines, or freehand draw some lines.. you could try that too...

Sewnoma 03-04-2013 12:33 PM

I'm still learning FMQ and I felt the same way you did at first. I still can't do feathers or anything super symmetrical - most of my designs are really loopy and ..."creative"... LOL I gave up trying to be perfect and have been focusing on having fun instead. I'm getting better and better and (most importantly) enjoying myself and not stressing out about it.

Gloves definitely help me. Sometimes I draw out a skeleton of where I'm going to go; for the most part I just wing it. I just do one small section (maybe a foot square) at a time and that helps. Plus I don't worry if I cross lines here or there, or have to travel stitch back to get myself out of a corner. That kind of stuff is nearly impossible to spot (especially if you go with a design that deliberately has crossed lines and travel stitching!), and I figure as a beginner I'm allowed all sorts of "sins". ;-)

Check out Leah Day's "Free Motion Project" site. It has really helped me to watch the designs get stitched out, and it's great to see that up close, even the great Leah Day's stitches are a little wobbly and uneven sometimes. Looking at her work shows that it doesn't have to be perfect in order to be stunning!

MadQuilter 03-04-2013 12:37 PM

I am still very timid when it comes to FMQ so I signed up for some craftsy classes. They are wonderful and quite helpful. Now I just go for it and practice away. I used matching thread on my last piece and I can't see the errors. Just keep trying.

quiltingnd 03-04-2013 01:01 PM

I've signed up for a few classes and watched them and watching Leah Day and youtube videos, but it just doesn't come very easy to me. I know that I'm tense, and I want to be perfect right off the start which doesn't help my cause at all. My practice pieces have only been around that 12x12 or 15x15 sizes. Thanks for letting me know that it just takes time and practice. I will keep trying.

AndiR 03-04-2013 01:11 PM

Get yourself a MagnaDoodle (child's drawing toy) or a whiteboard with erasable markers. Choose one design that you would like to be able to quilt, like meandering or loops or leaves - nothing too difficult. Now practice over and over and over on the drawing toy. Chant to yourself to get a rhythm going - 'up and to the right, down and to the left' or 'one, two, three, loop, one, two, three, loop' or whatever will help you keep you from crossing over or getting boxed into a corner. The more you do it, the easier it will get. When you feel more confident here, then move back to your machine and fabric. Your brain will now have this 'road map' saved, so that part of the process will be easier.

It can be frustrating at first, but one day it will all 'click' and then it's so much fun!!

Andi

Suzette316 03-04-2013 01:15 PM

A few things that might help you loosen up -- remember to breathe! When we concentrate, we tend to hold our breath and that can make our work less flowing and smooth. I like to put on some music and hum (or sing) along. That keeps me breathing and my quilting smooth and even.

Use something to give you grip, like Machingers gloves or, if you don't like gloves, a trick I learned years ago from Diane Gaudynski is to use Neutrogena hand cream (the kind in the tube). When you use just a small dab on your fingertips and palms, it makes your hands sticky and you can grip your quilt better. (I have a tube I bought about three years ago and it's still probably half full - you really do only need a small dab and yes, it works great!) I love my Machingers, but I still often use the Neutrogena cream when I just don't want the gloves on. :)

And if all else fails, try a half glass of wine before quilting - it can work wonders! :D

craftycancer 03-04-2013 01:18 PM

No No No! Don't you give up! It took me a couple of days before I grasp the concept now I'm off and quilting. It can be frustrating, but just remember you guide the fabric do not let it guide you. I started off really really slow and watched techniques off youtube before you know it came naturally! Here's a picture of my first FMQ! Good Luck


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hperttula123 03-04-2013 01:59 PM

Take your time and remember that it doesn't just happen overnight. It takes lots of practice. I can run a longarm just fine but when it comes to freemotion on a domestic...it looks horrid. I haven't put the time in to learn it. One day, I will overcome that one. I hope you do too. :)

faykilgore 03-04-2013 02:21 PM

I took the advice of someone on this board & drew my maple leaf design over & over with a pencil on the back of "trash" paper. Then I traced the design over & over on strips of dissolvable stabilizer. I tried pinning, but I ended up thread basting the strips to my quilt borders. Before I actually started on the quilt, I did several practice runs on extra pieces. I save the batting & backing when I trim quilts for this purpose. Finally, I put needle to quilt. A few look a little mutant, but, hey, no two leaves look alike in nature either. I keep playing & working up to more complicated patterns so hang in there.

Nilla 03-04-2013 02:31 PM

Ugh, I can relate! I practiced, practiced and practiced some more. I took a class. I read other people's suggestions. The idea of manipulating the quilt in a smooth, flowing manner just didn't seem realistic for me. I started paying someone else to do my stippling. Now I have a long arm, and I can stipple pretty well! I think my brain gets the idea of moving the machine (pencil) but not the quilt (paper).

I hope you eventually get it, but if not, you aren't the only one. Good luck!

Buckeye Rose 03-04-2013 02:39 PM

FMQ is not easy at first.....it took me weeks of practice before I felt comfortable with even stippling/meandering.....I found the transition from drawing by moving the pen, to drawing by moving the fabric under the needle, very difficult....so I drew the lines on the fabric first (washable markers) and following the lines....by the time I could follow the lines pretty good, I felt more comfortable "drawing" with the machine needle.....I would suggest making lots of small practice sandwiches, about 12x12 and draw a pattern on them and practice following the lines (with no thread)....you will get an idea of your skill by looking at the holes you left in the fabric....then work on following the lines with thread and keeping your stitch length even....good tension is a bonus of all things working together and a bit of adjustment.....just remember to practice, practice and then practice some more!

ckcowl 03-04-2013 03:30 PM

just put together small (pot holders, placemats) practice piece & keep practicing...it takes lots of practice- put on some (soothing) music- something you can relax to- and relax, remember it's just practice, it's supposed to be fun. after you find you can make smooth even stitching lines then slowly increase the size of your practice pieces until you are doing bed sized quilts- the more you practice the easier it will become & the better & better it will look. you do have to relax though---drop your shoulders, relax your hands, breath; i've found i quilt differently depending on the music i choose....when it's very intricate, detailed quilting i tend to listen to soothing, meditation type music, when i'm doing big, wide, loopy, meandering, swirly fun designs i have something up-beat & fun playing.

quiltingnd 03-04-2013 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by AndiR (Post 5904068)
Get yourself a MagnaDoodle (child's drawing toy) or a whiteboard with erasable markers. Choose one design that you would like to be able to quilt, like meandering or loops or leaves - nothing too difficult. Now practice over and over and over on the drawing toy. Chant to yourself to get a rhythm going - 'up and to the right, down and to the left' or 'one, two, three, loop, one, two, three, loop' or whatever will help you keep you from crossing over or getting boxed into a corner. The more you do it, the easier it will get. When you feel more confident here, then move back to your machine and fabric. Your brain will now have this 'road map' saved, so that part of the process will be easier.

It can be frustrating at first, but one day it will all 'click' and then it's so much fun!!

Andi

Thank you!

quiltingnd 03-04-2013 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Suzette316 (Post 5904078)
A few things that might help you loosen up -- remember to breathe! When we concentrate, we tend to hold our breath and that can make our work less flowing and smooth. I like to put on some music and hum (or sing) along. That keeps me breathing and my quilting smooth and even.

Use something to give you grip, like Machingers gloves or, if you don't like gloves, a trick I learned years ago from Diane Gaudynski is to use Neutrogena hand cream (the kind in the tube). When you use just a small dab on your fingertips and palms, it makes your hands sticky and you can grip your quilt better. (I have a tube I bought about three years ago and it's still probably half full - you really do only need a small dab and yes, it works great!) I love my Machingers, but I still often use the Neutrogena cream when I just don't want the gloves on. :)

And if all else fails, try a half glass of wine before quilting - it can work wonders! :D

LOL! I can only imagine that I hold my breath.

I will try the cream...and maybe the wine too!

Stitchnripper 03-04-2013 03:46 PM

All above good suggestions. I am surely not an expert, but can do a respectable job on meandering, but, it takes practice, practice and more practice. But, once you find that sweet spot of your sewing speed and hand movements, you will know it. I don't always get there, but, it is a much faster way to quilt and I do enjoy it.

JulieR 03-04-2013 03:47 PM

Loads of great suggestions here already. I'll add mine: doodle as much as possible on pieces of paper that already have writing on them! The idea here is to get your mind around doodling around things, next to edges, in corners -- and how to get back out again. It will help you conquer the worst part of quilting for me, too, which is knowing what to do next!

I draw swirls and other motifs all over my meeting notes -- around the letters, around sections, against the edge, using the lines...etc. As a bonus it's mesmerizing for others, and that can be fun to watch. :)

quiltin-nannie 03-04-2013 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by quiltingnd (Post 5904053)
I've signed up for a few classes and watched them and watching Leah Day and youtube videos, but it just doesn't come very easy to me. I know that I'm tense, and I want to be perfect right off the start which doesn't help my cause at all. My practice pieces have only been around that 12x12 or 15x15 sizes. Thanks for letting me know that it just takes time and practice. I will keep trying.

I was told to have a glass of wine! It helps you to just relax.

Knitette 03-05-2013 12:00 AM

Well - I'm one of the 'lucky' ones. I took to FMQ like a duck to water and by the end of the session at my LQS I could stipple, write my name etc. The other day I was practising freehand dragonflies.
I now think I know why this is.

I'm new to quilting - and indeed sewing - a couple of years ago I had to learn how to thread a machine......... Therefore, I had no preconceived ideas or 'baggage' about what I could or couldn't do on sewing machine, how it was really supposed to look underneath etc, lol and just did it. I was so pleased I could do it at all, I just carried on. I believed that if I could draw it on paper I could do it on the machine (didn't quite work out like that, lol....)

The point of this is that 'ignorance is indeed bliss' - in other words try and relax. What's the worst that can happen? A few yards of thread and a little batting for the bin? Absolute worst case scenario - a broken needle?
Good luck :)

noveltyjunkie 03-05-2013 12:20 AM

I sympathize. I'm struggling too. I am so scared to ruin the piecing I worked so hard on. I'm making lots of practice sandwiches. Mostly they are disastrously bad, but I guess the proportion of the work which is acceptable is probably rising. So that's progress!
Let us know how you get on.

quiltingnd 03-05-2013 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by Knitette (Post 5905153)
Well - I'm one of the 'lucky' ones. I took to FMQ like a duck to water and by the end of the session at my LQS I could stipple, write my name etc. The other day I was practising freehand dragonflies.
I now think I know why this is.

I'm new to quilting - and indeed sewing - a couple of years ago I had to learn how to thread a machine......... Therefore, I had no preconceived ideas or 'baggage' about what I could or couldn't do on sewing machine, how it was really supposed to look underneath etc, lol and just did it. I was so pleased I could do it at all, I just carried on. I believed that if I could draw it on paper I could do it on the machine (didn't quite work out like that, lol....)

The point of this is that 'ignorance is indeed bliss' - in other words try and relax. What's the worst that can happen? A few yards of thread and a little batting for the bin? Absolute worst case scenario - a broken needle?
Good luck :)

That's what I think I need. A hands on teaching. But sadly....I live in the middle of nowhere. So even IF they had classes in the nearest city, that's still over an hour away. :(

maminstl 03-05-2013 06:03 AM

I want to master this skill - have been watching videos, taking Leah's class, haunting the web for designs to try. After a very clumsy start, I think I am getting the hang of it. Over the weekend, I FMQ'd a half dozen placemats, and found that my last one is certainly better than my first. I want to give it a try on a whole quilt soon, as I have a hard time using up perfectly good fabric for practice. Guess I would rather ruin something using fabric that has already become something:)

rebeljane 03-05-2013 06:59 AM

Have a glass of wine and relax - it will all happen for you with practice

sharoney 03-05-2013 07:12 AM

When I first started machine quilting, I would always draw a pattern on the quilt. As I made more quilts, I got more comfortable with quilting without the pattern. My first FMQ quilts were just meanders, and I look at them now and see uneven stitching, bad tension, and just mistakes- but in order to get where you want to be as a quilter, you just have to keep at it. I'm still not where I want to be, but I'm a lot better than I used to be, and I know I'll keep improving with every quilt I make.
If people quit making quilts because every quilt is not perfect, there would be a lot fewer quilts around.
And lastly, some people are just better at piecing, and some are better at quilting. If you just feel like you're not improving, maybe you can pay someone to quilt your quilts, or find someone who'll trade quilting for piecing with you. I've actually thought about it, because, while I enjoy piecing, I really love FMQ, and I'm a better quilter than I am a piecer.

Bonbonary 03-05-2013 07:20 AM

I just tried fmq by using the start button on my Janome instead of the foot pedal. My quilting was much improved. Maybe because I had one less thing to worry about. I tend to speed up or slow too much when I get nervous or am not sure where to stitch next. You might try that too if your machine has a start button. Just unplug the pedal and give it a try. Also gloves are a must for me, too.

skowron5 03-05-2013 07:26 AM

I find I have more trouble on practice pieces than quilts. I think it is because the practice piece is small and you can't grasp as well. If you have some fabric you can waste try making a larger piece and see if that helps. I was going to give up and then one day it just started looking good. I am on my second wall hanging on a wholecloth with just fmq and I love it. Give it more time before you give up.

I also learned from a Craftsy class with Ann Peterson that she uses cupboard lining that is like rubber and grippy. You just cut a couple squares and use instead of gloves. I find it is easier for me with that. The gloves just didn't work for me.

dcamarote 03-05-2013 07:41 AM

I have taken two workshops on FMQ. One was an all day affair. I have given up. The only thing I FMQ on are my charity quilts for babies since I figure they won't care anyway! I would love to get better at it but mostly SID or do lines around things to make them stand out. Some things are better left alone and for me FMQ is not worth the aggravation. I really love quilting but that can make me walk away from my machine. Good luck.

PaperPrincess 03-05-2013 11:23 AM

I'm sure that there are some folks who are immediately successful, but not me. I read somewhere that you should make a big stack of practice sandwiches. FMQ 45 minutes every day, and at the end of a month, you will have it down. This was my experience, and even after a month, I wasn't wonderful, but comfortable, with an even stitch length. The amount of time per day was good, so you didn't get tired, and the daily repetition gets the muscle memory ingrained. You can reuse the sandwiches by putting a new piece of fabric on top, so you don't need a new one every day. A hard thing for me was figuring out where to go next. I would strongly agree with the posters who said to doodle with paper and pencil a lot.

irishrose 03-05-2013 12:28 PM

1)Draw with your index finger to imprint the pattern on your brain. 2)Give yourself permission to sew in all directions. Once I did this, things improved. Those of us coming from an apparel background have many years of sewing forward. 3)Increase the size of your practice sandwiches. When you use something small, there is too often nothing to hold on to near the edge and the size is limiting. I only quilt a small area at a time, but I use a larger area to guide the quilt. I am down to a border with not much extra now and it's difficult to keep my vines where I want them.

My FMQ isn't perfect, but it will hold the quilt together and it will improve. Soon I will asking for help with feathers which scare me.

institches33 03-06-2013 04:33 AM

I'm getting much better with Cindy Needham's class on Craftsy. It's for quilters of all levels.

Grannyh67 03-06-2013 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by quiltingnd (Post 5904053)
I've signed up for a few classes and watched them and watching Leah Day and youtube videos, but it just doesn't come very easy to me. I know that I'm tense, and I want to be perfect right off the start which doesn't help my cause at all. My practice pieces have only been around that 12x12 or 15x15 sizes. Thanks for letting me know that it just takes time and practice. I will keep trying.

Hey, Im right there with you. I expect too much of myself. I too am learning FMQ. I do pot holders, lol.....I did do a table tunner and it turned out pretty good. I know we will get better if we just keep tryinh and not expect too much of ourselves, good luck and do as I am doing, hang in there. :)

Journi 03-06-2013 05:19 AM

I can't stress enough checking out Leah Day's Free Motion Quilt site! She refers to s "stitch/mind muscle you develope from practice and also sends us back to our memories of learning cursive handwriting. I don't Have FMQ mastered, but try to practice daily on a scap plain piece of fabric no smaller than 7 inches. I promise you will eventually master it. But to sit and just practice the art ver and over at one time will rattle you marvellous brain cells------we'll it did at least for me!

cjones9258 03-06-2013 05:42 AM

Hang in there, I just learned how to operate my sewing machine August 2011. Now, I am trying to learn how to FMQ and having difficulty. Signed up for Leah class on Craftsy, and hopefully that will help me. The most important I hear is practice, practice.

Lorileik 03-06-2013 06:21 AM

I doodle FAQ patterns in all my meetings at work. My coworkers think its pretty funny but it has helped me train my brain very well. I love FAQ. I stuck to meandering for a couple of years first.

quilter2090 03-06-2013 06:46 AM

Relax! From what I've learned from TV and youtube is practice,practice,practice. Look at it this way, when you were learning how to ride a bike, did you fall a few times before you could get your balance right? When you were learning how to drive a car, did it take some practice to get your license? Why would you assume free motion quilting is any different? The first time you do anything is harder than if you do that task for years. I've seen so many posts on here where posters say they have tried FMQ once or twice,say this is too hard, and give up. One teacher suggested buying a white board or a sketch book and write a line of cccc's. The idea is to do it enough that you have muscle memory.Then try different letters. Once you get that down, try connecting leaves or hearts or stars or whatever you want. Use practice sandwiches and do it. Remember, you will not be going to quilt jail if you feel that you do it wrong! This is supposed to be a pleasant hobby, if you get stressed out, what fun is that? Good Luck!

romanojg 03-06-2013 07:21 AM

try getting a dry erase board and practice; it's been said that if you practice drawing the design until you feel comfortable then it'll come more easily when you FMQ. I took a class at Raleigh sewing expo last yr because I too was intimidated by the thought of it. I was surprised that I was pretty good. I havne't done anything yet but right now I'm working on finishing up WIP and then I'm going to get serious about it. I even have a crib size Gracie metal quilt frame with stitch control that I picked up. I was going to sell it due to lack of space but they don't do so well here on Craigslist so if I have to keep it I want to learn to use it. I'm hoping to take another class in the future.

FroggyinTexas 03-06-2013 07:48 AM

To each his own! My own are my friends who bought long arm quilting machines so they can quilt the tops that I and others take to them. I get the thrill of the top, they get to exercise their artistry and make some money. FMQ a kitchen quilt (hotpad) is about the most I'm going to do and I don't feel frustrated or bad about it. froggyintexas


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