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Happy Treadler 03-25-2011 12:22 PM

Anybody know if hand piecing is a strong as machine piecing?? I wonder if the bobbin thread makes any difference.

Inquiring minds would like to know. :roll:

Hinterland 03-25-2011 12:26 PM

It probably isn't as strong as machine piecing. However, I have a quilt on my bed with hand pieced blocks. It's now over 10 years old, and the stitching has held up just fine.

Janet

MadQuilter 03-25-2011 12:28 PM

I think it depends on the stitch. I have done some piecing (way back in the day) where I used double thread and a backstitch. I would have double-dog dared anyone to rip that.

BeeNana 03-25-2011 12:57 PM

It is true...........you gave me a good laugh with the dare!


Originally Posted by MadQuilter
I think it depends on the stitch. I have done some piecing (way back in the day) where I used double thread and a backstitch. I would have double-dog dared anyone to rip that.


EIQuilter 03-25-2011 01:10 PM

My first quilt (over 30 years ago) was hand pieced, and it's in great shape after many years of regular use! The fabric has worn in a few areas, but the piecing has held up. I used a single thread and a backstitch every four or five stitches.

sueisallaboutquilts 03-25-2011 01:56 PM

To be honest I don't think so, unless you do a lot of backstitching.

Scrap Happy 03-25-2011 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by MadQuilter
I think it depends on the stitch. I have done some piecing (way back in the day) where I used double thread and a backstitch. I would have double-dog dared anyone to rip that.

I used to hand piece my quilts this way too.

Rose Cactus 03-25-2011 02:00 PM

I believe the sewing machine will provide a stronger lock stitch than hand work.

QuiltMania 03-25-2011 02:15 PM

Depends on how you end your seams. If you tie a good strong knot, it should be fine. After all, there are a lot of antique textiles out there where the stitching is holding up just fine.

emmah 03-25-2011 03:23 PM

I have a bunch of antique quilts, and it usually is the fabric that goes, not the thread that stitched the pieces together. Usually it is because of a very narrow seam allowance that some old- time quilters used. The fabric started to unravel. But the threads are still intact.

bjnicholson 03-25-2011 03:26 PM

I'm making a Grandmother's Flower Garden piecing by hand and I sure hope my seams hold!

Happy Treadler 03-25-2011 03:43 PM

So would you recommend using single thread or doubling it? I'm DYING to hand-piece something ever since I got Jinny Beyer's handquilting book. Been carrying the thing around with me everywhere, it's SUCH an awesome book!

EIQuilter 03-25-2011 03:46 PM

If I remember correctly, Jinny recommends a single strand of thread, and that's what my teacher recommended, as well.

QuiltnNan 03-25-2011 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Hinterland
It probably isn't as strong as machine piecing. However, I have a quilt on my bed with hand pieced blocks. It's now over 10 years old, and the stitching has held up just fine.

Janet

ditto

LivelyLady 03-25-2011 04:04 PM

I would say yes as hand pieced antique quilts are still holding together :-)

quilter1943 03-25-2011 04:09 PM

I have some quilts my great grandmother made, all hand stitched and hand quilted and they're in great shape. I've laundered them carefully and have used a couple of them some. The back stitching is important and super little stitches.

Hinterland 03-25-2011 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Happy Treadler
So would you recommend using single thread or doubling it?

I use a single strand of cotton thread, and sometimes poly-cotton if that's what I have on hand. I don't double it.

Janet

justlooking 03-26-2011 04:11 AM

I would say yes, but depending on how your hand stitching it.

k9dancer 03-26-2011 04:11 AM

I pieced a couple of quilts by hand. I think I used single strand on one, double on another. I back stitched every stitch. Still holding up.
For hand quilting I use a single strand.
I do mostly machine piecing and machine quilting. That said, you cannot beat hand work for portability.

jolo 03-26-2011 04:14 AM

Well all I can answer to this is to go by my quiits. I have a quilt of my mothers,hand pieced and handquilted, made in the thirties or fourties,used on the beds,kids played with and on it. washed many times,only now wearing out. The earliest one I made and still have access to is one I made my DGD when she was less than a year old and she has used it constantly since then and is still using it.She is 20 this year.

Happy Treadler 03-26-2011 04:47 AM

I'd guess that it would also depend on the quality of the handstitching, too. If your stitch is closer I'd guess it'd hold up a lot more than if you have long stitches.

quilt3311 03-26-2011 05:27 AM

When I hand piece, I use a single thread and back stitch every 3 or 4 stitches. Do a double knot beginning and ending each seam. Have old quilts that were all hand done and some are well worn with the stitching intact. Some of the fabrics are fraying, but the stitching is in place.

nanac 03-26-2011 06:24 AM

I have some quilts I made over 25 years ago that still look pretty darned good. To this day, I still do all my piecing by hand, with a back stitch every inch or so. I do the hand piecing for 2 reasons. First, I find it very relaxing, but just as importantly, it is always portable, whereas the sewing machine is not so much. Just depends on your preference, I guess.
nanac

Irene Frohreich 03-26-2011 06:33 AM

My Mom hand pieced and hand quilted all her quilts and some are over 50 years old and the seams are still in tac it's the fabric that gives out.

mommafank 03-26-2011 06:51 AM

I have 2 quilts that are at least 60 years old----fabric wearing but not the hand piecing. I would have thought the thread might have deteriorated but it has not.

scraphq 03-26-2011 07:17 AM

Hand piecing will last as long as the fabric. The solid back of the quilt takes much of the strain off of the handstitching. The quilting, whether hand or machine done adds additional strength. Don't worry about it not being strong enough to last.

grandjan 03-26-2011 07:36 AM

If it's a straight running stitch, hand quilting may be weaker but I've had to rip out seams that I've sewed with a back-stitch every few stitches and it's actually harder to rip out than a line of machine stitching. Think about all the antique quilts, all hand-stitched that have survived for 100 years or more.

justflyingin 03-26-2011 07:39 AM

I think that hand piecing isn't as strong as machine sewing, BUT that it is strong enough for the average fabrics. IOW, it sounds like the sewing, if done decently, last longer than the fabric.

So, while I can't begin to see how hand piecing could be as strong as machine, it is strong enough.

Poakie 03-26-2011 08:00 AM

I have done several hand stitch ones. My son has washed his so many times and the stitching has held up great.

carolynjo 03-26-2011 08:43 AM

I would not double my thread. I would make a good knot, bury it in the fabric and take small stitches. It should last a lifetime.

Rock Lady 03-26-2011 09:57 AM

I also think handstitching holds up very well, in fact, in most cases it holds up better than the material. I think the quality of the thread plays a big role in it. I have always used quilting thread and not just the regular thread. It seems a bit heavier, I think. I have some quilts that were handed down to me that are upwards of l00 yrs. old and they are just like the energizer bunny - they just keep on going and going and going. I love to hand quilt.

desertrose 03-26-2011 12:46 PM

I agree I have salvaged pieces from an 1800's log cabin quilt and it's the fabric that deterioted before the stiches. When I have collected enough fabrics to make a crazy quilt wall hanging I intend to hand quilt the entire quilt.

martha jo 03-26-2011 02:36 PM

I have a friend who only hand pieces. Her quilts are beautiful but if people put them on the bed and sit on them a lot some of the seams tend to break. I don't think she back stitches.

maryb119 03-26-2011 02:39 PM

I think hand quilting is a strong as machine. You use a heavier thread when you do it. I made my son a hand quilted quilt when he was 2 years old and he is still using it. He's 24. It's been on his bed all this time. He even took it to college with him.

shaverg 03-26-2011 05:54 PM

I hand pieced my first quilt in 1983, still in perfect shape. I have several of my grandmother's,way over 100 years old the fabric has worn out in some spots, but the stiching is still holding.

Gabbystabber 03-26-2011 07:26 PM

Hand piecing is just fine. The reason you back stitch is if the thread should break it will only come apart 2 or 3 threads. I was taught never to start at the beginning of a seam or at the very end because this is the weakest point. I use a single thread. Never had any problems with thread breaking. Fabric will wear out before that will happen. And, I double dare you to rip out a seam. You must remember, after the top is quilted, there is no stress or pulling on your seams. So machine, or hand piecing...do what you prefer and worry not!
Donna

audsgirl 03-26-2011 07:41 PM

I took a hand piecing class and the teacher used hand quilting thread for piecing. I had never heard of doing that, but that was the way she always did it. That would be strong.

grandma Janice 03-26-2011 08:08 PM

I hand pieced most of mine over the years. Never had any that came apart. you use a single thread but everytime you start a new needle full you take a back stitch. end with an extra few stitches in place. Holds fine. We still have quilts that my husband's grandmother made all hand pieced and they are still going strong. some of the materials are not faring quite as well.

ckcowl 03-27-2011 02:21 AM

i am sure my hand piecing is just as strong as my machine quilting since it depends on the strength of the thread being used. i use good quality strong threads and i make tiny stitches. i have had machine stitching come out with time...i have never had my hand stitching come out.
many people piece quilts (and make other things) by hand...they hold up for decades...hundreds of years...the strength depends on the materials used...not necessarily the techniques used

Bamagal 03-27-2011 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Hinterland
It probably isn't as strong as machine piecing. However, I have a quilt on my bed with hand pieced blocks. It's now over 10 years old, and the stitching has held up just fine.

Janet

I have one on my bed-- hand pieced hand quilted. 30 years old now!! No problems!! My second quilt!


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