I have the Topaz 30 for about 1year and I love it. I only paid $3000.00 for mine and it was brand new.

My local Viking (in Joann's) in the Valley in California is selling New in box: the Topaz 20 for $1999, and Topaz 30 for $2999, Ruby is $3999, because they are getting the Ruby Deluxe in now (about $5999) they are selling the floor model Ruby's at a discount. I was so disappointed to learn that for about the last 6 weeks they had a sale where you could trade-in any sewing machine for a $1500 discount toward the Ruby! Yes, and I heard about it only 4 days too late, UGH! Has anyone actually gotten that deal? I understand they are also offering the 5D software with free upgrade to the "5D pro" only while they still have the regular 5D software Pkgs. in stock; supposed sale is $1500 just for the software, and then they "offered" the 3 year warranty for $300 more. Afraid to ask what's included!