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QandE2010 10-22-2012 06:14 AM

Teaching
 
I was reading another thread and i had this thought that I will share.
When you teach a new quillter or explain a procedure, do you assume that quilter has some level of knowledge?
Let me tell you a story about an experience in the business world that I apply to the quilting world (it can apply to all walks of life.) I went to work as an underwriters trainee at a large insurance company and was a novice. My boss (teacher) tried to teachh me the basics like I was in "high school", but I really was only in kindergarten. Almost all she was trying to teach me was way over my head. It was very frustrating, to say the least. I learned the required knowledge and became very proficient in my field, (no thanks to my boss) but the whole process was so painful and no fun.
So when I teach, I get down to the student's level and teach from there. I am more apt to be very explicit, and not assume the student is familiar with the subject. Take pressing vs ironing. It is amazing the number of students that do not know the difference. Or the difference of straight of grain vs on the bias. That being said, I will tell the student to stop me if they already know the subject. If they say they already know, I'll ask them to explain it to me, so I know that they know.
I try not to talk down to the student, and I use a lot of self deprecating humorous, so they don't feel stupid or inferior.
So I ask again: When teaching or explaining a procedure, how do you effectively do that?

QuiltE 10-22-2012 06:31 AM

You know what happens when you ASS-U-ME!

Though there is a fine line between going to the bottom level of basics and starting above.
Going too low can be insulting to the student and create a block in the learning path.

A good teacher is able to source out the abilities and level without insult, injury and intimidation.

gollytwo 10-22-2012 06:35 AM

I just begin by talking about quilting and check in along the way that she understands.

NanaCsews2 10-22-2012 06:46 AM

Can I relate! My last job, which didn't last long because it was never intended to but I didn't know that and that is a whole other story, gave me frustration to no end. I have office experience and skills. I was placed in a position to learn skills that someone in engineering should know, and have a degree for. I was being taught the office computer part of it. But there was nothing more frustrating not knowing why I was doing what I was. No background info, no lessons, teachings, books, courses. No resources that gave me the background of the position to allow me to make sense of the computer work involved. And it isn't that I didn't ask. It was assumed I should know engineering and HVAC. I inherited the need to know why in order to get results. I am a learn by doing and watching kinda gal. So I learned this when showing others what I know. There is nothing worse than 'dumbing someone down'. I hate it when I am treated that way, I would never do that to others.
How do you effectively teach another? By first asking what is their best way to learn. Take the frustration out of it right away.

Tashana 10-22-2012 08:50 AM

My pottery teacher asked everybody to introduce themselves and say what kind of experience with pottery they had. Since there were a few of us who did not even touch the clay she started from the scratch. She gave us novices more attention while letting the more experienced students practice more complex forms. While novices were working on the basics she would consult with more experienced students. She was a great teacher. I kept taking her into class for years because the advanced class was not at a good time for me. I learned something new every time even in my last class when I was confident to call myself an experienced potter.

QandE2010 10-22-2012 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by QuiltE (Post 5603555)
You know what happens when you ASS-U-ME!

Though there is a fine line between going to the bottom level of basics and starting above.
Going too low can be insulting to the student and create a block in the learning path.

A good teacher is able to source out the abilities and level without insult, injury and intimidation.

I agree whole heartedly.

nativetexan 10-22-2012 10:21 AM

yep, people all learn things differently too. what makes sense to one may not make sense to another. I always stated things at least in two different ways. worked well.

QandE2010 10-22-2012 10:21 AM

Nanacsews2, I agree with the 'dumbing down' statement, too. It is downright insulting.

QandE2010 10-22-2012 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Tashana (Post 5603875)
My pottery teacher asked everybody to introduce themselves and say what kind of experience with pottery they had. She gave us novices more attention while letting the more experienced students practice more complex forms. While novices were working on the basics she would consult with more experienced students. She was a great teacher. I learned something new every time even in my last class when I was confident to call myself an experienced potter.

And I'll bet you retained a lot of what you learned because of her style & patience.

QandE2010 10-22-2012 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by nativetexan (Post 5604121)
yep, people all learn things differently too. what makes sense to one may not make sense to another. I always stated things at least in two different ways. worked well.

I am a visual learner myself. Tell me and I'll retain. Very little, show me and I'll retain more, helpnme do it myself and I'll retain the most.

QandE2010 10-22-2012 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by gollytwo (Post 5603561)
I just begin by talking about quilting and check in along the way that she understands.

Thanks for your input, gollytwo. A good way to see what their level of understanding is.

AliKat 10-22-2012 10:53 AM

I was/am the grief to many teachers in that I learn in a multiple of ways: kinesthetic [touching and manipulating things], visual, and auditory.

That's why I don't repeat myself unless necessary but rephrase it. Having samples to manipulate helps too.

ali

QandE2010 10-22-2012 12:59 PM

Alikat, I agree that samples are priceless. Thanks for sharing.

willferg 10-23-2012 06:47 AM

I think it's very hard for people who know something well to consider the perspective of someone who doesn't know the topic at all. Things they think are easy or clear often aren't. That's why not everyone is born to be a teacher!

QandE2010 10-23-2012 02:58 PM

Willferg, you are spot on.

QultingaddictUK 10-23-2012 03:15 PM

I have had to "teach" most of my working life, having been a Head Chef for over 3 decades and I start by apologising to treat them like beginners, newbies, but to bear with me as I have to ensure everyone knows the basics.

I do the same with my Patchwork classes having been to a workshop at the 1st Loch Lomond quilting exhibition in Scotland, when the Tutor starting to "assume" that we knew certain things, she realised very quickly that we didn't and kudos to her, completely changed her lesson. I took note and my first lesson is ALWAYS on how to clean and look after your sewing machine, how and when to change needles, threads etc. I am so grateful to that Lady, as my group members are now able to look after their machines.

By coincidence I went to a talk with Dawn Cameron Dick today at a local quilters group and she said that so many people say "Oh I must buy another machine, this one isn't doing what I want to do" and she replies "Look after and keep your machine, change your needles regularly, using the correct ones according to the fabric and thread you are using, isn't that what the famous saying does "It is a poor workman who blames his tools"!

One of the best sayings I have learnt is " Never assume"

TanyaL 10-23-2012 03:47 PM

Ability to attract students and the attitude of the teacher can't be seperated. At a LQS I had almost been talked into signing up for a beginners class on applique when
I asked if we brought our own machines. In a shocked voice the shop's owner said, "We don't consider machine applique to be REAL applique! When you know how to do hand applique you won't HAVE to do machine applique." What a put down! And I haven't been back to that LQS since. A different attitude might have kept me interested in other classes. Or at least in their fabric.

ube quilting 10-23-2012 03:58 PM

My life list of "I make it a policy to never/always" includes to never assume anything. period! ever!
peace

@ QuiltingaddictUK: I really like this!

"It is a poor workman who blames his tools"!

QandE2010 10-24-2012 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by ube quilting (Post 5607427)
My life list of "I make it a policy to never/always" includes to never assume anything. period! ever!
peace

@ QuiltingaddictUK: I really like this!

"It is a poor workman who blames his tools"!

You are so right @ube quilting. @quiltingaddictuk, I am going to remember the quote about the workman. @Tanya, what an unfortunate incident at your LQS. The sad part is the person that offended you will never know that a loyal customer was lost because of her thoughtlessness.


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