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ButtercreamCakeArtist 11-23-2009 07:23 AM

I have a can of temporary quilt basting spray. I believe it is June Tailer brand. I don't like it. I haven't tried any of the other brands. This is a can I picked up at WM a while back and only recently tried it. It's the only brand I've ever seen.
I don't know about other brands, but this one really has a strong chemical smell when first sprayed. It doesn't stick very well, especially for paper. I'm making in the hoop (embroidered) ornaments, and needed to glue paper to fabric and fabric to tear away stabilizer. I ended up with very sticky hands and sticky fabric that wouldn't stay where it needed to stay. A mess, mostly.

I remember reading about using glue sticks, so I used regular, washable Elmer's glue sticks. The result was great. I didn't have any problems with it gumming up the needle or anything, yet, but I only made one ornament with the glue. I prefer to keep on using the glue, but I'm wondering if anyone has had any machine problems from using glue stickes??

sewjoyce 11-23-2009 07:56 AM

I've never used glue sticks while sewing. However, I swear by 505 Basting Spray....it works great!

Here is a nice place to purchase -- and the price is very reasonable:

http://www.connectingthreads.com/Too...x_TD20276.HTML



ButtercreamCakeArtist 11-23-2009 09:45 AM

Thank you for the link, sewjoyce. I will check it out and probably order.

I've changed my mind on the glue stick, though. It is gumming up the needle and causing me a lot of grief.


ButtercreamCakeArtist 11-23-2009 09:46 AM

OH YAY! Sewjoice, I just realized that is from Connecting Threads, and I'm about place an order from them, anyway! THanks!

borntoquilt 11-23-2009 10:08 AM

Butter - try ironing butcher paper to the backside of your fabric. It has wax on one side that sticks the paper to the fabric but comes off easily when YOU are ready. I do not embroider (yet!) so hope that works in a HOOP. :-o

adriansmom 11-23-2009 10:54 AM

505 spray...definitely. I haven't found anything better!! I won't use anything else.

Ninnie 11-23-2009 12:59 PM

I use 505, and it is good, but the one I like best is put out by Sullivans, and is called The Original Quilt Basting Spray. It comes in a pink and white can with13 oz in it and it is great! I also use the Elmers glue sticks when doing bindings by hand, and I love it.

amma 11-23-2009 01:14 PM

I am not a big fan of the June Tailor brand of basting spray...it does NOT wash off easily on plastic surfaces or your hands... I sprayed a piece of fabric over an empty garbage can 6 months ago and the sides are still tacky and I have washed it out with hot water and soap numerous times.

sewjoyce 11-23-2009 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by ButtercreamCakeArtist
OH YAY! Sewjoice, I just realized that is from Connecting Threads, and I'm about place an order from them, anyway! THanks!

I can ALWAYS find stuff to order from them :lol: :lol: :lol:


mamaw 11-23-2009 03:37 PM

505 spray is the only one to use....works great and no odors.
No glue sticks....I like Roxanne's Glue Baste It...costs a little more; but much better to use. Also, try to keep it on the edges and not so far in that you have to stitch on it.
HAPPY QUILTING !!
Nancy

Jim's Gem 11-23-2009 03:39 PM

505 is what I use!

Suzy 11-23-2009 03:47 PM

I use the elmers school glue for alll my bindings and have never had my machine or needle get sticky from it. I also heat set with the iron as I glue it to the quilt. When all finished it doesn't cause problems and washes out completely. I also use 505 or kk2000 without any problems for basting the quilt together. Some sprays are just gooey, but these two I've named work very well. good Luck

Suzy

peaceandjoy 11-23-2009 04:02 PM

I tried JT & Dritz brands and thought I didn't ever want to use spray adhesive on quilts again. Then I got hold of some 505 and LOVE it!!

Just bought a new can today - a 10.98 oz. can (Really, who comes up w/ the amount in a can? Couldn't they go to 10.75 or 11?). $20!! Ugh, what a boring way to spend $20. But I detest basting, have tried every method known, and this is the least annoying (probably b/c it takes just a few minutes).

littlehud 11-23-2009 06:38 PM

I have used sullivans and 505 and like them both. It makes basting the quilt so much easier.

Barb_MO 11-23-2009 07:48 PM

I bought a can of 505 for 12.50 at my quilt shop. basted a quilt for kids guilt. I didn't know if I was applying enough spray, but it worked very well. I won't be going back to hand or pin basting

joeyoz 11-23-2009 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by sewjoyce
I've never used glue sticks while sewing. However, I swear by 505 Basting Spray....it works great!

Here is a nice place to purchase -- and the price is very reasonable:

http://www.connectingthreads.com/Too...x_TD20276.HTML


Ditto. Love 505.

Michelle 11-24-2009 06:53 AM

I prefer 505, but when my local quilt shop runs out of it I buy Dritz (in a small yellow can) from Jo-Ann's. June Taylor spray doesn't stick enough & when you're quilting it will allow the layers to shift... disaster!

Extreme Quilter 11-24-2009 07:08 AM

Does anyone use Sulky's spray adhesive? Joann's sells it. The can is rather small but Joyce Drexler on all the TV programs where she guests says you only need to spray a little so the small can goes a long way. I've never seen 505 at Joann's; I wish they carried it.

wishiwerequilting 11-24-2009 08:52 AM

505 is all i use as well.
I put a tutorial on my blog for using it to baste quilts. it's great stuff!!

http://quiltersparadisecafe.blogspot...-how-do-i.html

Hope this helps!
Lisa

Prism99 11-24-2009 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Extreme Quilter
Does anyone use Sulky's spray adhesive? Joann's sells it. The can is rather small but Joyce Drexler on all the TV programs where she guests says you only need to spray a little so the small can goes a long way. I've never seen 505 at Joann's; I wish they carried it.

I used Sulky and it worked fine for me. If I am remembering correctly, though, it has a strong chemical smell. Be sure your area is well-ventilated when you use it.

wishiwerequilting 11-24-2009 09:47 AM

i believe in 505! can't live without it. I think the advantage is no odor and good reliable stick without gumming up your machine. Very important! the other brands, IMO have a very strong smell and should be used in ventilated areas and not if you have any lung issues. not a problem with the 505. If your LQS does not carry it, it is readily available on line.
Lisa
www.quiltersparadiseonline.com

hereca622 11-24-2009 09:48 AM

I didn't like June Tailor either. I just purchased Sulky KK 2000. The can states Safe for you, non-toxic, odorless and clear. Safe to use indoors.

As far as clean up, it says not water soluble. Wipe off excess adhesive with denatured alcohol. Denatured means not drinkable, can be plain rubbing alcohol. This may be why some of you are having a problem washing the spray off with water.

nitarose104 11-24-2009 01:08 PM

Try this so spray does not go everywhere. Take a 32oz plastic travel cup (like from QT or somewhere). Cut off the cup holder part. Now you have a hollow applicator. Place the good rounded part (the part from which you drink) and place that on your stabilizer. Spray through the opening that you have just cut. It keep the spray contained and won't gum everything up.

Also, I like KK2000 better than 505. It doesn't seem like there is as much as the 505, but that little tiny can lasts longer than the much larger can of 505 and it is better for the environment.

ConnieF 11-25-2009 02:32 AM

Hello Buttercream,
I used the pink can spray one time.... and had to spray it by the front door it was so bad, and I once tryed the 505 but the very best is the Sulky KK 2000. I love it. Do not have to worrie about the smell. Can re position time after time. Does NOT gum up your needle and to get rid of it just iron with a warm iron.... NO STEAM just dry iron. NEVER put water on it or it will be forever sticky. I buy at JoAnn's when on sale for 50% off. DO not let the smaller can make you think there is less there. They do not have the o zone perpelent in the cans. The spray is eco friendly,
and again all I can say is I LOVE IT and use if for all sorts of things....
Best of luck with the emb projects.... Connie

patricej 11-25-2009 03:30 AM

i have come to the conclusion that all quilters possess an extra "loyalty" gene in our DNA. so many of us have a list of supplies and tools that we "swear by" and simply cannot do without. we are amazed anybody else would use anything else. it's a wonderful thing. and aren't we modern quilters lucky to have so many choices?

I'm quit happy with my cheapy-cheap June T spray. the only reason i haven't tried the 505 - which gets consistently rave reviews - is that i am ... well ... cheapy cheap. i'm scared to death that i'd be like everybody else who cannot bear to go back to wm once they've tried 505. :lol:

when i need the extra stability of a fused stabilizer i also use freezer paper (aka butcher paper). it works for machine embroidery, quilting, and a bazillion other things. it tears away more easily for me than anything else i've tried so far.

Butterfli19 11-25-2009 03:54 AM

Wait a minute here...

You can use basting spray to baste all three layers together and you don't need PINS? They stay attached and you can roll the quilt to quilt it and the layers don't come apart? You can get all three layers nice and tight with a spray?

I need to sit down...

peaceandjoy 11-25-2009 04:34 AM

Hmmm, got to go to Joann's today for some Heat and Bond, think I'll look for that little can of Sulky KK2000. Athough I don't need it right now, having just bought the 505, but have an extra coupon...

Yes, you can baste using a spray. No pins, no thread! I LOVE it! I've done several small quilts and table toppers this way. I haven't tried it for a full sized quilt, so can't comment on whether it would hold long enough for that. I've sprayed & layered one day, quilted the next, so know it holds that long, but not sure about over several days?

patricej 11-25-2009 04:35 AM

i can't speak for anybody but me. when i use spray baste, all 3 layers do generally stay stuck together. however, the process of rolling, unrolling, and re-rolling does disturb things a bit.

i get my best results when i take the time to re-smooth the back and smooth/pat the front [back into] place each time i get ready to do the next stage of quilting. since i'm mostly a ditch-stitcher, i re-smooth before each new line of quilting.

is that necessary? i couldn't swear to a "yes" or a "no". it's what i do when i want to be sure things will turn out as planned.

even that extra work beats the heck outta basting the whole thing first.

sewjoyce 11-25-2009 06:01 AM

When I'm hand quilting, after spraying and assembling, I like to press with a dry, hot iron to get all the remaining wrinkles out. It also seems to BOND all 3 layers together -- just try taking that sucker apart :lol: :lol:


LindaR 11-25-2009 06:12 AM

I bought the June Tailor brand at WM and love it...maybe you over sprayed it...I use it to told in/the/hoop embroidery in place and works well. I bought a brand at Perfect Stitches and couldn't use it because it was so extremely wet. Really gummed things up...I used the 505 brand also but really more expensive.

littlehud 11-25-2009 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Butterfli19
Wait a minute here...

You can use basting spray to baste all three layers together and you don't need PINS? They stay attached and you can roll the quilt to quilt it and the layers don't come apart? You can get all three layers nice and tight with a spray?

I need to sit down...

Yes, yes, yes. I did a dance when I tried it the first time. Life is good isn't it.

wishiwerequilting 11-25-2009 10:46 AM

You can most definitely spray baste all three layers of a quilt of any size without any pins, and it is just wonderful. Very time saving. For those of you who find 505 expensive, my bet is that you are using more than you need. one can will do a queen and several small quilts, or possibly 2 queens. Control "overspray" by spraying from the edges toward the middle and walk very quickly around your quilt.
My blog has a photo explanation and if you need any help, please post on the blog directly (or here) and I'll do my best to help you out.
http://quiltersparadisecafe.blogspot...-how-do-i.html

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving all....
Lisa
www.quiltersparadiseonline.com

Baren*eh*ked_canadian 11-25-2009 12:27 PM

I only use 505 because that's all I can find here. I ONCE used another kind of spray glue, turns out it was not water soluable and it totally ruined my quilt!
I know you can get bigger cans of 505, but the only ones I can get are the small ones and they're 16 bucks.

kathy 11-25-2009 12:45 PM

since she's embroidering, I'm guessing that it's something that she can't hoop, like a towel. I tried to hoop the fusible stabilizer then press the towel to it (like the instruction said) and it did not stay stuck so i haven't been able to do towels. I'd like to know more about how it's done myself.

ButtercreamCakeArtist 11-25-2009 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by LindaR
I bought the June Tailor brand at WM and love it...maybe you over sprayed it...I use it to told in/the/hoop embroidery in place and works well. I bought a brand at Perfect Stitches and couldn't use it because it was so extremely wet. Really gummed things up...I used the 505 brand also but really more expensive.

Lately, it won't even make the fabric sticky. I tried it again yesterday, but it wouldn't stick. I shook the can for the full 2 minutes like it says. So, I went back to the glue stick. It didn't gum up the needle yesterday. So, maybe, I'm thinking it was the masking tape that I used on the back of the design when my stabilizer and design separated. I was almost finished, and the design was about to come off the stabilizer. So, I went through my stash to find some thicker stabilizer, but I still think I need to buy some a little thicker. I don't understand why the June Tailer spray isn't working at all now! ODD!

ButtercreamCakeArtist 11-25-2009 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by kathy
since she's embroidering, I'm guessing that it's something that she can't hoop, like a towel. I tried to hoop the fusible stabilizer then press the towel to it (like the instruction said) and it did not stay stuck so i haven't been able to do towels. I'd like to know more about how it's done myself.

I've ordered some of the sticky stablizer for un-hoopables, but what I'm doing that I need the spray basting or glue for is In-The-Hoop ornaments. I bought the designs from Embroidery Library emblibrary.com. First, you embroider the die lines (2), cut them out. These will be the fabric used to embroider that becomes the ornaments. I'm using felt. Then, you hoop a piece of tear away stabilizer and embroider another die line. Then, you spray the basting or glue onto the back of the fabric you cut out and put it inside the die line in the hoop. the next thing the embroidery machine does is tack down the outer edges. Then, it will continue to embroider the designs. AFter all the inside work is done, it's time to glue/baste the back fabric on and put a ribbon in between to hang it by. Then, it sews around the outside again to embroider the two pieces together. The ones I'm working on now also have two buttonholes that sew because they are the little candy cane holders. I will find a link to this, so you can all see what I'm doing. I don't think I'm explaining it very well. It is really a lot of fun, and I hope to have at least 40 done for my kids' classes as gifts. I want to find the candy cane pens or pencils instead bc of the no candy rule.

Here is what I'm doing:

http://www.emblibrary.com/EL/elproje...log=Elprojects

ButtercreamCakeArtist 11-25-2009 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by kathy
since she's embroidering, I'm guessing that it's something that she can't hoop, like a towel. I tried to hoop the fusible stabilizer then press the towel to it (like the instruction said) and it did not stay stuck so i haven't been able to do towels. I'd like to know more about how it's done myself.

Why can't you hoop towels?

sewjoyce 11-25-2009 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by ButtercreamCakeArtist

Originally Posted by kathy
since she's embroidering, I'm guessing that it's something that she can't hoop, like a towel. I tried to hoop the fusible stabilizer then press the towel to it (like the instruction said) and it did not stay stuck so i haven't been able to do towels. I'd like to know more about how it's done myself.

Why can't you hoop towels?

I guess you can hoop towels but it would leave a mark and would be very bulky. When I embroidery towels (bath or hand towels), I hoop a piece of tear away stabilizer. Using the 505, spray the top of the stabilizer -- I hold it over my waste basket ------ never use spray basting close to your machine. OK, I place hoop in machine and then towel on top, taking care to make sure I have it where it needs to be. On the very top, use a very light weight water soluble - this keeps the nap from being beat down. When finished, tear off the stabilizer and as much as the water soluble on front as possible. Spritz with water -- you're done! :D Make sense??


ButtercreamCakeArtist 11-25-2009 04:41 PM

Oh, so the towels get hoop burn. I've only done some kitchen towels, and they were low nap.

amma 11-26-2009 01:19 AM

I put my stabilizer in my hoop. Then I made a template that is bigger than the hoop and with the center cut out to match the embroidery area. Then when I spray the stabilizer it only goes on the stabilizer and off of the hoop itself.

I have found that some of the paper type stabilizers don't get very sticky from basting spray. I spray...wait a few minutes and then spray a second or third time before it gets sticky enough to hold the fabric down.

Another thing that works is double sided sticky wonder under. Put it on the back side of your applique fabric, cut it out, remove the paper and stick it on the hooped fabric. No ironing is needed :wink:


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