What is Bottom Line thread for and what is it made from? Do you like it?
 

I am interested in knowing about Bottom Line before I do a purchase. I have bought from Superior Threads a few times, but would like inpput about this thread. This might sound totally stupid, but is Bottom Line for the bobbin? Thank you, Jeanne

I use bottom line in my bobbins alot. It is 60wt - very fine and strong. ( I think nylon or blend - my label does not say) Because it is so fine, I don't have to change the bobbin so often. At first I was afraid the stitches would not show because it is so thin, but I find that is not the case.

It's a 60 wt poly designed for the bobbin
Lots of quilters also applique with it - so fine it disappears regardless of what colour you use.

Bottom line is intended for embroidery. When you're doing machine embroidery and have a thread dense design you don't want the thread so thick on the back side.

I personally don't see much point to using it to piece with. Sure it's finer and you get more on a bobbin but at the same time you've got two different threads in your seam and one may cut the other over time.

https://www.superiorthreads.com/prod...d/bottom-line/


It's not just for embroidery.

I use the superbob per wound bobbins with bottomline for quilting. it is thinner than i would like for piecing. Great stuff. Tough and easy to use.

pam

I use it for a lot of different things, as mentioned above, but I especially like it in combination with Superior's Sew Fine for piecing. It's a great combo.

It is old, outdated quilting lore that top and bottom threads must be the same.
I've been quilting for 30+ years, often using different threads, quilts have been well used and washed alot - no problems.
We really need to put to rest a lot of the old rules.

My Bernina machine worked just fine when piecing with the Bottom Line in my bobbin, but when I used the Bottom Line with my Brother, the tension was all wrong. I switched back to same weight thread.

Bottom Line can be sensitive to ironing and therefore could melt. Not recommended for piecing per Superiors website

Strange, since they recommend it for applique.

I wouldn't use it anywhere where an iron would come in contact for good pressing. The poly will melt with a cotton setting iron. I plan on using it for my metallics and fussy threads for embellishment purposes. Not for piecing or quilting.

I use Bottom Line thread in my bobbins when I do machine embroidery. You can get a lot of it on a bobbin, so it saves a lot of bobbin changes.

I got the Thread Therapy DVD from Superior recently, and Dr. Bob does give that ironing caution about Bottom Line on the DVD. Incidentally, this DVD is free from the website, just pay about $4 for shipping, until December 11th. It's really worth it; lots of good information in it. Here is a link to the special offer:
https://www.superiorthreads.com/shop...hread-Seminar/

However, I think the best thing to do is to actually test with your iron to see for yourself if it melts or not. I bought a spool of Threadart 60wt polyester bobbin thread from Amazon just because it was really inexpensive and I was curious about it. I sewed some test seams and then held my Rowenta iron on the thread for more than 10 seconds, on its hottest setting, and there was absolutely no melting or other damage to the thread. I ***love*** this thread for piecing! Not only does the bobbin hold a lot more, so I run out of thread much less frequently, but it's easier for me to get accurate seams because it takes up so little space in the turn-of-the-cloth. Plus it's not linty, so I don't need to clean my machine as often! Here's a link to the spool on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Bobbin-Thread-...dp/B0034W118Q/

I recently tried Connecting Threads 70wt poly thread in my midarm, because I really like the quilting thread to not show a lot, but it broke a few times. So now I've ordered a spool of Bottom Line. I'm hoping that being just a little stronger, it will work well in my midarm. I found that the least expensive place to order Bottom Line and King Tut is from this website:
http://www.kenquilt.com/

I use Bottom Line in the bobbin AND in the top when I'm piecing. It cuts down on the bulk in the seam. I've also used it in the longarm (top and bottom) when I want to do a lot of backtracking, or don't want the thread to show much.

I realize that Superior recommends their (more expensive) 50 weight cotton thread for piecing, but I have never had any problem with the thread melting, and I do use a hot iron.

I took a FMQ class on Craftsy and she uses Bottom Line for all of her stitch in the ditch.

Bottom Line is all I ever use in both top and bobbin for FMQ on my Janome. I took a class from an instructor who uses only
Bottom Line top & bottom for FMQ . She does absolutely georgous quilting! Another great thing about Bottom Line is that whatever color you use it seams to sink into the fabric. I love, love, love it!

Another place to buy both So Fine and Bottom Line, as well as many other threads, is www.sewthankful.com. They are great to deal with and have frequent specials.

I use it for piecing, applique, bindings and in my HandiQuilter bobbins. Love it.

Thanks for the link, Prisma. I just ordered the free DVD. I've watched a few of Bob's youtube vids and I think it will be nice to have it on DVD.

I use their Masterpiece thread for piecing an top and bobbin. And I use Bottom Line in my bobbins on my long arm and in both when doing SID.

I received my DVD and viewed it today. It is really SUPERIOR information. Bob defines the uses of each weight and why. He also explains why topstitch titanium coated is a superior needle. I have used them and agree. They last much longer and are well worth the $1 extra price for 4. They also will bend instead of breaking which keeps them from going into your machine if you have a mishap.

I use Bottom Line in bobbin when piecing, in bobbin in Longarm and even as a top thread in both when I want to use a finer thread. It has never MELTED when I use a hot iron. I even mix the thread sizes & types of thread in my machine, but always use Bottom Line. I have even used Superiors "So Fine" in the bobbin and it works great too!

Bottom Line is a 60 wt poly thread from Superior Threads. It comes in spools, cones and pre-wound bobbins.

I use it in my bobbin for FMQ. I just blends into the background fabric so beautifully.

Sorry, I meant to say BACKING FABRIC.

I use it with King Tut on the top for quilting on my longarm.

I just pushed my like :) button for this comment. I, too, have been sewing since the 70s and mixing top and bottom threads with no problems with wear and tear - only problem I ever had was using 100 % cotton thread on top and bottom and the quilt is giving way in places after 8 years of use.

Love it !! I use it in the bobbin for everything . I just bought a larger cone. Didn't know about it melting I haven't had any problems with it at all.

Bob Purcell of Superior Threads spoke at our LQS several times in the last 4 years. He is the one who convinced me to try Bottom Line and So Fine not only in the bobbin but as a TOP thread for piecing. I have used those two threads almost exclusively for the past 4 years. I teach the Learn to Quilt series at my LQS and get the newbies started on them because it helps them to sew that scant 1/4" seam allowance. No bulky thread! As far as the idea that it melts with an iron or cuts through other thread has not been my experience. I also love how long my bobbins last before running out of thread. Give it a try!

Superior Info
 

Bottom Line is a 60 wt. lint-free filament polyester. Bottom Line is a very versatile thread which can be used in many applications.
•Available in 55 colors.
•Ideal for hand and machine appliqué, detail quilting, embroidery, stitch-in-the-ditch, bobbin thread, trapunto, binding, free standing lace, heirloom sewing, serger thread, and garment construction.
•Several colors blend into fabrics so well that they appear invisible.
•Wonderful thread choice for micro stippling.
•Available in cones and spools.
•SuperBOBs are The Bottom Line thread wound on cardboard-sided bobbins available in L-style (118 yds.) and M-style (215 yds.) prewound bobbins.
•BOB's are The Bottom Line thread wound onto plastic-sided bobbins and are ideal for hand appliqué.
•SuperBOBs Donut is a collection of 35 SuperBOBs set into a BobbinSaver

I think so also.I think people like to make up stuff so it sounds like they are in the know.If it works,do it.I'm not always popular at the guild meetings.So many quilt police.I don't always share info either.I usually use "So-Fine"in my bobbin.Just my personal favorite.I use this for piecing also.The finer weight gives me more accuracy.It's complete nonsense that one thread "cuts"the other over time.Who decided that?If they were looking at an old quilt pieced with cotton thread,then maybe the cotton just deteroited.Well maybe.But no one knows.They are just guessing and presenting their thoughts as fact.

That's interesting. I've had poly melt before and it can ruin the quilt.

Where did you find that on the Website? I looked and couldn't find it. froggyintexas

Just another yes vote! I personally love how long my bobbin lasts with this thread.

Where did you find that on the Website? I looked and couldn't find it. froggyintexas


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Bottom Line can be sensitive to ironing and therefore could melt. Not recommended for piecing per Superiors website.




https://www.superiorthreads.com/foru...c/bottom-line/

Bob from Superior Threads also gives this caution on his Thread Therapy DVD. I'm not sure they are correct about how hot an iron gets, though. My Rowenta on its hottest setting could not make a dent in 60wt polyester bobbin thread when I tested it for melting. I'm waiting on the spool of Bottom Line that I ordered to test it with my iron. I'm just not sure who irons enough for the thread to attain 510 degrees Fahrenheit. :shock:

Ditto. It's all I use in the bobbin. Because it's so fine, a bobbin lasts so much longer than other threads. I've used it with King Tut, with all kinds of metallics, and lots of variagated threads for FMQ, and I also use it for piecing. THe finer your thread is for piecing, the less bulk it adds to the seams.

I'm with you, gollytwo! It not only works perfectly well with other threads, it makes a flatter seam when pressed to one side because of it's lighter weight. I have washed it, ironed over it, and tested it's strength. Winners in all categories. I have also quilted for many years, and by process of elimination have changed my ideas many times. When something new comes out, try it, then make up your own mind about using it, whether it's thread, fabric, machines, etc! Bottom Line does work better in some of my machines, but not so well in my older ones. I love not having to wind a bobbin so often. :)