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    Regretting long arm purchase?

    Has anyone on this site, who owns a Long arm have any regrets about buying it? I am in the process of buyers remorse and feel I need to return the machine. There is something just not right with the timing of all this and I wish I could put my finger on it. Making me nuts! JC

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    You might want to join the homequiltingsystems group on groups.yahoo.com . It's very large and very active, and the posters have a wide variety of longarm and midarm setups. One of the topics I have seen talked about there is how some people bought a longarm and then were so intimidated by it they let it sit for a year. I'm sure buyer's remorse would be an interesting topic to bring up there.

    How much research did you do before purchasing? The rule of thumb advice on the group above is to spend a full year doing research and trying out as many setups as possible before making a purchase.

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    Longarm Purchase

    I hear you ... my husband purchased me a Gammill last summer - great deal! I had fallen at the end of February an broke my arm and was still in the pre-surgery recovery stage. I finally had surgery in December and am really on the mend - long story. I had to wonder about the timing of this purchase and laid awake many nights thinking of the $8000 we had spent on it and how my car would have been almost paid off - lol

    I have used my machine for a total of 10-15 hours since he purchased it for me. I have done a few quilts of my own and several charity quilts. Every time I get a quilt loaded onto it, I get excited. It is the getting the quilt onto the machine that scares the dickens out of me. Every time is easier and every time the results are better.

    I had never really done any of the quilting on my own quilts so this was a scarry prospect for me. I know that I dream of the day when pinning a quilt on doesn't take me so long and when I can do it without even thinking about how to do it and getting the directions out.

    I look at quilts that have been done by other longarm quilters and shudder - I am just positive that I will NEVER be that good. I have to remember that they were all beginners too. And ... I tell myself that they could also be using a computerized machine, whereas mine isn't. I know the lady who used to do all mine had one.

    I just finished a quilt that I wanted to do a pantograph on, but I couldn't figure out how - I have only taken one class - and I ended up doing a meander on it with varigated thread and it turned out great (even if I do say so myself). I want to take more classes because, honestly, the longarm quilters that I have met in this area don't seem to be too anxious to help me learn - it's like they think I will be competition - right ?!?!?!? lol I am sure some of the problem is that I just don't know what questions to ask.

    My best advice would be to ask about the return time frame and use the dickens out of it before it ends - you might find that you become more comfortable with it and want to keep it. I know that I feel less guilty about all that money each time I finish a quilt.

    I am determined to master this beast - if it takes me until my dying day - lol If I can do it, you can too. I will have faith for both of us. I wish you lived close by so we could learn from each other.

    I did learn something the other day when I was doing a small (26 x 26) wall hanging --- I pinned only the back on, laid the batting down, used the machine to stitch placement lines for the top and left side of the quilt. I pinned the top onto it and then let it rest while I stared at it. I finally decided to meander on the outside of the quilt and fussy stitch around the applique in the 10" center block. My goal on the center was to stay close to the applique without actually stitching on the design. I was more succesful than I thought I would be. I meandered on the hourglass blocks that surrounded the center square. I learned that the corner where four blocks came together were difficult to stitch over and if I stitched around them, they looked like small volcanoes. LOL I will do a better job of pressing next time. I showed my quilt to several people this weekend and most of them didn't notice the issues I saw and I even got a few compliments on how well I did - you should see me strut - lol

    You just have to jump in with both feet and know that some quilts will look better than others but you can always spend some time practicing on muslin - I have and I am going to load more on so I can do some more practicing because I want to do that pantograph on a quilt, but I want to mess up on muslin.

    I know this has been long and probably disjointed, but I hope you keep trying and end up falling in love with your machine.

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    great post, w7sue.
    Last edited by DebraK; 04-01-2012 at 05:04 PM.

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    Take some classes if you can. I have had my shortarm setup for about 5 years....I like having it, and I like doing my own quilts. I wish I had more time to practice quilting on it. I usually end up doing my own swirly whirly quilting motifs free motion, because I am a procrastinator and end up needing to do the quilting quickly to meet a deadline. My own fault. I work full time and am very busy with quilt guild and church activities, as well as kids & grandkids. So, yes, it's great to have a quilting setup....just don't beat yourself up about using it, or getting really really good at it in a hurry.

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    Don't Give Up!

    My husband purchased me a Gammill several years ago (in 2006) and I had the same regret. As soon as I got it, a part was broken. The dealer came and fixed it, then I had alll kinds of trouble with tension, then my dealer got weird on me and I had to complain to Gammill and got a new dealer. I was all ready to send it back but then I thought, that the people who used these machines so beautifully aren't really any smarter than me (us) and if they can learn, then so can I. I am still not at the level of some quilters, but I am pretty good---certainly better than I was. I purchased some tension tools (the Towa) and now I can get a pretty good tension. My machine isn't stitch regulated either, but again, my stitches are pretty good. I have learned to sorta hum along and I seem to get it right :c). Pantos are my "thing" now---especially since I learned to not try to follow exactly, it is okay to come outside the line :c). The moral of this story is you can in fact learn this!!!! There is a Gammill yahoo group that you should think about joining. They give all sorts of tips that have really helped me. The one thing I regret is my new dealer isn't in the area, they are in Mississippi---but are wonderful people. They have helped me a lot on the phone and sent a repairman to re-time the machine (I really messed it up) and it wasn't as expensive as I thought it would be. He was so much nicer than my original dealer and it actually was a great visit. It will be okay----you will learn this and will one day be able to laugh and support someone else. These machines do have a big learning curve---we aren't always told this and I don't know about you, but I thought the curve was the same as my domestic machine----NOT---give yourself time. Practice--Practice--and then Practime some more.

    QUOTE=w7sue;5108325]I hear you ... my husband purchased me a Gammill last summer - great deal! I had fallen at the end of February an broke my arm and was still in the pre-surgery recovery stage. I finally had surgery in December and am really on the mend - long story. I had to wonder about the timing of this purchase and laid awake many nights thinking of the $8000 we had spent on it and how my car would have been almost paid off - lol

    I have used my machine for a total of 10-15 hours since he purchased it for me. I have done a few quilts of my own and several charity quilts. Every time I get a quilt loaded onto it, I get excited. It is the getting the quilt onto the machine that scares the dickens out of me. Every time is easier and every time the results are better.

    I had never really done any of the quilting on my own quilts so this was a scarry prospect for me. I know that I dream of the day when pinning a quilt on doesn't take me so long and when I can do it without even thinking about how to do it and getting the directions out.

    I look at quilts that have been done by other longarm quilters and shudder - I am just positive that I will NEVER be that good. I have to remember that they were all beginners too. And ... I tell myself that they could also be using a computerized machine, whereas mine isn't. I know the lady who used to do all mine had one.

    I just finished a quilt that I wanted to do a pantograph on, but I couldn't figure out how - I have only taken one class - and I ended up doing a meander on it with varigated thread and it turned out great (even if I do say so myself). I want to take more classes because, honestly, the longarm quilters that I have met in this area don't seem to be too anxious to help me learn - it's like they think I will be competition - right ?!?!?!? lol I am sure some of the problem is that I just don't know what questions to ask.

    My best advice would be to ask about the return time frame and use the dickens out of it before it ends - you might find that you become more comfortable with it and want to keep it. I know that I feel less guilty about all that money each time I finish a quilt.

    I am determined to master this beast - if it takes me until my dying day - lol If I can do it, you can too. I will have faith for both of us. I wish you lived close by so we could learn from each other.

    I did learn something the other day when I was doing a small (26 x 26) wall hanging --- I pinned only the back on, laid the batting down, used the machine to stitch placement lines for the top and left side of the quilt. I pinned the top onto it and then let it rest while I stared at it. I finally decided to meander on the outside of the quilt and fussy stitch around the applique in the 10" center block. My goal on the center was to stay close to the applique without actually stitching on the design. I was more succesful than I thought I would be. I meandered on the hourglass blocks that surrounded the center square. I learned that the corner where four blocks came together were difficult to stitch over and if I stitched around them, they looked like small volcanoes. LOL I will do a better job of pressing next time. I showed my quilt to several people this weekend and most of them didn't notice the issues I saw and I even got a few compliments on how well I did - you should see me strut - lol

    You just have to jump in with both feet and know that some quilts will look better than others but you can always spend some time practicing on muslin - I have and I am going to load more on so I can do some more practicing because I want to do that pantograph on a quilt, but I want to mess up on muslin.

    I know this has been long and probably disjointed, but I hope you keep trying and end up falling in love with your machine.[/QUOTE]

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    I have a longarm that I adore the Handiquilter 16. Pinning was the worst part of the procedure until I learned to just machine baste the leaders to the backing and the top then load them on the rails. The quilttop is free floating at the top, just sew across the length with the longarm after it is loaded(all three layers).

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    Quote Originally Posted by w7sue View Post
    I just finished a quilt that I wanted to do a pantograph on, but I couldn't figure out how - I have only taken one class - and I ended up doing a meander on it with varigated thread and it turned out great (even if I do say so myself). I want to take more classes because, honestly, the longarm quilters that I have met in this area don't seem to be too anxious to help me learn - it's like they think I will be competition - right ?!?!?!? lol I am sure some of the problem is that I just don't know what questions to ask.

    I am determined to master this beast - if it takes me until my dying day - lol If I can do it, you can too. I will have faith for both of us. I wish you lived close by so we could learn from each other. .
    w7sue - you sound like you are doing a fine job of learning your machine without much outside help. Don't know where you are in Oregon but there will be a Machine Quilters Exposition(MQX) West in Portland this coming October go to this website for info http://www.mqxshow.com/MQX/West/Home/index.cfm . Your (or another) Gammill dealer will be there and the zipper company too. I got a Gammill in '08 and have a part-time business. Like you, I had no one to ask for help. I had my first two customers lined up before the machine was delivered! I had to tell them it would be a while before I was ready to work on their quilts. I did the first one two months later. I did attend classes at MQX East for the past 3 years and learned a lot. Gammill had a video by Linda Taylor that shows the basics of using the machine and her book was very helpful too.
    With your positive attitude you'll have that machine mastered in no time.
    See my comments about the zipper system it is worth every penny in time and energy savings.
    Last edited by selm; 04-03-2012 at 11:20 AM.
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    Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. I contemplated for quite a while about purchasing a longarm and in the end I just couldn't justify the cost. I'm fast approaching fifty and I don't knock out quilts quickly enough. I estimated how many quilts I might make over the next 20-30 years that I would choose to have machine-quilted and what my longarm quilter charges per quilt on average. It turned out to be so much less expensive to have her or another person quilt them for me. Now, if we strike the lottery I would buy a longarm machine in a heartbeat! LOL
    Creative clutter is better than idle neatness.

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    Check out the Red Snapper loading system. 10 minutes to load a king size quilt. Well worth the $$
    quiltsonthecorner.com/red_snappers

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