The DDL just may listen if I offer to help her when we go back. She has more "irons in the fire" than most young mothers and may just be thinking of how to finish the project in a hurry. I may offer to tie it for her or something. I think I will try posting photos of their quilts to let you judge by sight rather than by my explanation. The DGD made a baby quilt for her new niece and the DDL made a double bed sized quilt for a new bunk bed set for her three year old.