They also fit a Wheeler and Wilson #8, which I have. No bobbins, I bid up to $65 and then sat back and watched the madness. I stopped into the small mom and pop sewing store that has been owned by the same family for 3 generations and just asked if they happen to have any bobbins, Yes they did and I got it for $5. They even said I can come and look at what else they may have in the dungeon the next time I come in. I love people who never throw something out just because it is old.