you are right on grannieannie I just ignore them if it was such a rule so cut and dried why are there copy cats in the pattern making world I'm refering to stack and whack by one person one block wonder by another same pattern also the twist pattern I did it when it was called square dance then somone comes along and changes the namethere are to many of them out there to name them all they just want money money so they try to scare the little guy I don't even buy magazines any more to much free stuff on the internet and have never been told what we can do with that