I saw an older Singer in a cabinet that used cams at the Goodwill. They only wanted $39. for it. I was so tempted but then the hubster says "what are you going to do with it" as I have 4 machines already. I really thought maybe it would be a good thing to make purses on. I don't like when my electronic machines have to endure the thick seems on bags. But alas I passed it up. Thought of about a dozen other things I could spend that money on. Sometimes we just have to be practical.