Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane

Or you could order the thread online after using their online (free) or actual physical thread card (this one costs roughly $30) ... The online one is fairly accurate IF your monitor is color corrected. If not, it's a ball park.

The funny part about Gutermann to me is that I can run it in any machine I want - except Lucey. She forces me to change tension so much that it's not worth it and the cleanup...

Not worth it. That's less than one spool of thread and you should have seen the hook area!