Off the subject, but, I have a frosting tip. Used to make homemade frosting. Then, I experimented using store bought icing. Too hard to spread straight from the container. And there was always too much frosting...do not like thick sweet cake frostings. I now put container of frosting in the microwave on defrost for a minute or two. Frosting will become very spreadable and I use only half of a container for 13 by 9 cake. If you wanted peanut butter frosting, I use a container of cream cheese frosting and mix in 2 large tablespoons of peanut butter and stir well. MMM good.