Antique Needle Sorting and ID
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Antique Needle Sorting and ID
Hi,
Recently noticed a bunch of antique needles for sale online and purchased. First picture is before sorting and second of sorted by size and shank type (flat or round):
Top left--Wheeler & Wilson 5 (size 16) 127x1 for 9, D9 flat shank
Top middle---New Home with greyhound stamped on needle 20x1 flat shank
Top right----Marked merrow
Middle left---Simanco 1.6 mm round shank x 39 mm length (industrial? )
Middle center--Simanco 2 mm round shank x 42 mm length (industrial measures size 23)
Middle right --15x1 standard Singer
Bottom left---Mostly fine hand sewing needles
Bottom right---Domestic NT (notched top) marked Boye 60-80 (size 14) and Domestic various sizes 125 needles.
Now to find a Domestic using the notched needle. The 127x1 needles will be put to use in my Singer 9W7.
Jon
Recently noticed a bunch of antique needles for sale online and purchased. First picture is before sorting and second of sorted by size and shank type (flat or round):
Top left--Wheeler & Wilson 5 (size 16) 127x1 for 9, D9 flat shank
Top middle---New Home with greyhound stamped on needle 20x1 flat shank
Top right----Marked merrow
Middle left---Simanco 1.6 mm round shank x 39 mm length (industrial? )
Middle center--Simanco 2 mm round shank x 42 mm length (industrial measures size 23)
Middle right --15x1 standard Singer
Bottom left---Mostly fine hand sewing needles
Bottom right---Domestic NT (notched top) marked Boye 60-80 (size 14) and Domestic various sizes 125 needles.
Now to find a Domestic using the notched needle. The 127x1 needles will be put to use in my Singer 9W7.
Jon
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Fortunately the shanks more often than not have the maker and the needle size. Needle size and application can be found in the old sewing supply catalogs: (page 24-30)
30-40 cotton---size 18
40-60----------------16
60-80----------------14
80-100---------------11
http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect...0773/index.htm
Jon
30-40 cotton---size 18
40-60----------------16
60-80----------------14
80-100---------------11
http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect...0773/index.htm
Jon
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Finding a Domestic shouldn't be a problem - it just has to be a "Pre White" Domestic. They did make a few branded machines, but they look exactly the same.
Somehow I've ended up with a plethora of Domestic attachments - and I see them for sale quite often.
I've been looking for one that will take the chain stitch adapter - it has a hole in the shuttle carrier.
Somehow I've ended up with a plethora of Domestic attachments - and I see them for sale quite often.
I've been looking for one that will take the chain stitch adapter - it has a hole in the shuttle carrier.
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge on these Jon and Cathy. That link is great, I get overwhelmed at trying to figure out what is on SIL site. I'm thinking of adding a Domestic fiddle base sometime in the near future.
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Cathy, a hole in the shuttle carrier? and no shuttle obviously, Is there some sort of attachment also, or is it just as simple as putting a hole in a shuttle carrier? Do you have an image? Maybe this would help me figure out if I can convert a Little Midget to a chain stitcher.
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It's just a tiny hole, and a pin from the adapter fits into it.
I do believe I could modify a carrier - but I'd sure like to eyeball one first. I do have one for the newer style adapter (just the carrier, not the whole machine) but that one clips in a bit differently.
This is from the manual. My machine is actually a bit older than those that came with the looper - but from what I've researched, it should work.
Here is the shuttle holder I bought that came of the "newest" Domestic that did the chainstitch.
And the looper I have, which is the older style so it does not quite fit into the holder.
However I also have a "parts" Domestic machine, as it was cheaper to by the whole machine than to get a slide plate that mine was missing when I bought it.
I do believe I could modify a carrier - but I'd sure like to eyeball one first. I do have one for the newer style adapter (just the carrier, not the whole machine) but that one clips in a bit differently.
This is from the manual. My machine is actually a bit older than those that came with the looper - but from what I've researched, it should work.
Here is the shuttle holder I bought that came of the "newest" Domestic that did the chainstitch.
And the looper I have, which is the older style so it does not quite fit into the holder.
However I also have a "parts" Domestic machine, as it was cheaper to by the whole machine than to get a slide plate that mine was missing when I bought it.
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