J Miller

I am looking at a Singer machine that is either a 27 or a 28 or a ????, I do not know how to tell the difference.
The serial # is B1244748.

Now there is web sites that will tell you when this # was made and I have that.
There is also a site that will give you the date that series was allocated and the number of machines in that allocation. I have asked for that link several times from several people and still don't have it.

And I'm sure there is a page somewhere that will tell what model that machine is by the number. I don't have that either.

I know these pages are there, but try as I might I've been unable to find them.

Can somebody please post direct links to these pages? I would really appreciate it.

Oh and here the link to the auction I'm watching, what model is this?
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions...e-9471201.html

Thanks,

Joe

Charlee

It's a 27, commissioned on August 1, 1905.
http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_...-database.html

The high bobbin winder would in most cases, indicate a 127, but this one has been moved/replaced...you can see the mount for the lower winder if you enlarge the pics. The auction machine is actually a 27.

J Miller

Charlee,

Thank you. Now I can go in and update the data on my older Singers.

Joe

J Miller

Charlee,

I think I just found a discrepancy in the serial number date chart you gave me.

Singer 66 Red Eye Treadle, serial # AA 069244 (double checked and verified)

When I look that number up on the AA page I get this:
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]AA- [/TD]
[TD] 80201
[/TD]
[TD] / 115200
[/TD]
[TD] / 15
[/TD]
[TD] / 35000
[/TD]
[TD] / October 15
[/TD]
[TD] / 1924
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
The chart shows this number allotted to the Mdl 15.

Now above that several lines is this line: [TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]AA-
[/TD]
[TD] 40701 /
[/TD]
[TD] 75700 [/TD]
[TD] / 66 /
[/TD]
[TD] 35000
[/TD]
[TD] / September 23
[/TD]
[TD] / 1924
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
If I drop the 0 off the front of my serial number then it would be a 66.

Am I blind, cross eyed, reading it wrong or did they make an error?
I'm doing all my old Singers and so far they've all been right on except this one.

Joe

Charlee

Yes Joe, you drop the first zero in the number. The machine is a 66, Sept. 23, 1924.

Question, why would you use AA88021 - AA115200 ? The 88021 is past the 69244....

Charlee

NOT to say there aren't mistakes on the lists...the serial for my 115 comes up as a 25...

J Miller

88021? I typed 80021 ... really, I just looked again for the 4 th time

OK, that makes sense I guess. I sometimes take serial numbers literally. If there's a digit on the item I want to see a digit on the chart. Personality flaw I guess.

So this follows through with the 99K machines too I'll bet. Back to the charts.


Joe

Charlee

So...an oops on my part, but doesn't change anything, really.

J Miller

Nah, we all make oopsies. Now I'm looking for the date for a 401A. Serial # NA 660348.
Any ideas on that one?


Joe

Charlee

Yep. 1957-1961. This website has more information:

http://singer301.com/dating/default.html