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    Does anyone else have one of these?

    I looked on the net, and this is the closest I could find to the Gritzner Durlach hand crank sewing machine I got yesterday. Mine is in much better condition than this one. I don't have chipped paint on mine, but I think this shows the Mother of Pearl in the center of the machine and what mine looks like. Wish I could post pictures of mine.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-GRIT...item2329a71be1

    Does anyone have any information as to what needle it takes?
    Thanks, Janis

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    Dear all,

    I just wonder if anyone know this riccar sewing machine model? its only have thalhimer emblem on the front

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    the sewing machine still work fine, my mother-in-law had it since 1974 and passed it to me.
    I'll try to search in the Internet to locate the model but have no luck.
    I need to know all the feature from this sewing machine.

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    Suci
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janis View Post
    I looked on the net, and this is the closest I could find to the Gritzner Durlach hand crank sewing machine I got yesterday. Mine is in much better condition than this one. I don't have chipped paint on mine, but I think this shows the Mother of Pearl in the center of the machine and what mine looks like. Wish I could post pictures of mine.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-GRIT...item2329a71be1

    Does anyone have any information as to what needle it takes?
    Thanks, Janis
    Does Ismacs have a chart?
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suci View Post
    Dear all,

    I just wonder if anyone know this riccar sewing machine model? its only have thalhimer emblem on the front

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    the sewing machine still work fine, my mother-in-law had it since 1974 and passed it to me.
    I'll try to search in the Internet to locate the model but have no luck.
    I need to know all the feature from this sewing machine.

    regards
    Suci
    Bogor, Indonesia
    It is a fancy stitch badged machine. The knob on the left is the stitch selector - to the right might be for width and the one below would be for length. You will have to do trial and error. Here is a link for other fancy stitch machines.
    Vintage Japanese 'Badged' sewing machine with fancy stitches
    and here is a link for the zz badged machines:
    Vintage Japanese 'Badged' Zig Zag and Straight Sew Sewing Machines
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Does Ismacs have a chart?
    It looks a lot like the Winselmann that I have here. My Winselmann takes a class 12x1 needle. If you ever find a good source for the needles, I'd like to hear about it. I find them online sometimes, but they're really expensive (somewhere in the "a few to several dollars each" range) The needle it came with is dull, and bent, but it sews very nicely after about 8 hours of work I did on it when I got it home. LOL! I pieced my first "quilted" project on it. Log cabin pin cushions.

    I've heard that you can sharpen the needles, I may figure out what's involved with that one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane View Post
    It looks a lot like the Winselmann that I have here. My Winselmann takes a class 12x1 needle. If you ever find a good source for the needles, I'd like to hear about it. I find them online sometimes, but they're really expensive (somewhere in the "a few to several dollars each" range) The needle it came with is dull, and bent, but it sews very nicely after about 8 hours of work I did on it when I got it home. LOL! I pieced my first "quilted" project on it. Log cabin pin cushions.

    I've heard that you can sharpen the needles, I may figure out what's involved with that one day.
    Thanks Miriam and Tammi, I did look on ISMAC and read through all 12 pages on the needles. On page 37, I found Gritzner Familien and Gritzner Rotary. The Familien takes 12x1 and the Rotary takes 16x1. I'm thinking it heeds the Familien. Now to see if my OSMG has the needles and also the tire for the bobbin winding. I'll call him tomorrow.
    Anyone that has information on where to get the needles, etc., your help is wanted and needed! Thanks.

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    Janis,

    If your machine has the slides plates like the eBay listing, yours is a TS (transverse shuttle). All TSs take a 12x1 needle. AND most German TSs will work with the common industrial DBX1 needle.

    Remember that the TSs do not have a needle stop for depth. Place the needle oriented the correct way (usually with the long groove facing forward), push it up to where you know its too high and clamp itt down lightly. Turn the hand wheel towards you until the timing mark (an etched horizontal line on the top left of the needlebar) is just entering the casting. Now loosen and lower the needle until the eye is just entering the needle plate. Your needle is now set properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janis View Post
    Thanks Miriam and Tammi, I did look on ISMAC and read through all 12 pages on the needles. On page 37, I found Gritzner Familien and Gritzner Rotary. The Familien takes 12x1 and the Rotary takes 16x1. I'm thinking it heeds the Familien. Now to see if my OSMG has the needles and also the tire for the bobbin winding. I'll call him tomorrow.
    Anyone that has information on where to get the needles, etc., your help is wanted and needed! Thanks.
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    Wow Cathy! Thanks for this information. The poor Winselmann had been resigned to being a show piece, but I actually have 4 packs of DBx1 needles here that came with an Elna that I bought. I will have to try that out the next time I spend some time in the sewing room!
    Tammi - I've found that many baby steps tend to get you further than a huge leap in followed by a huge leap out - http://www.archaicarcane.com
    Singer 411G, 301A, 2x 221 (featherweight), 222k - the holy grail, 99-, 15-90 Centennial, 27, VS2, 28 hc, 128 knee bar, 201-2, Pfaff 130-6. Non-Vintage - Pfaff 6122, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81595 serger, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81155, 2013 APQS Lucey

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane View Post
    I've heard that you can sharpen the needles, I may figure out what's involved with that one day.
    My Wheeler & Wilson No.8 has a needle sharpener, round honing stone, attached to the frame that is operated by the treadle belt. So I am sure that our very thrifty ancestors did sharpen their needles. I am wondering if a fishhook sharpener would work to sharpen needles?
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    Yes, I have done it. I have a fishhook sharpener that I have used to remove burs. I twirl the needle as I draw the tip along the groove of the sharpener. Works very well.

    Cathy


    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline S View Post
    My Wheeler & Wilson No.8 has a needle sharpener, round honing stone, attached to the frame that is operated by the treadle belt. So I am sure that our very thrifty ancestors did sharpen their needles. I am wondering if a fishhook sharpener would work to sharpen needles?
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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