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Thread: Hand Crank Discussion

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    Hand Crank Discussion

    hey folks,

    I have had a couple people approach me regarding this age old issue.

    I am SO new to this whole world that sometimes I think things are possible when folks who know WAY more say "been there, tried that".

    With that admission up front I would like to enlist the aid of anyone who feels like helping.

    The goal is to produce one of the following:
    1. A complete handcrank mechanism with 3:1 gears that can be mounted on "non-bossed" machines WITHOUT drilling new holes in the head.
    2. An attachment that will allow non-bossed machines to use existing Singer or PRC handcranks.

    Makitmama sent me this photo of a rare 127 conversion handcrank
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    What I am looking for right now is a photo of both types (this and the PRC version) from the angle of the red arrow looking at this area.

    Also a photo of diagram of how the area indicated by blue arrow looks on a "normal" treadle machine.

    I like the idea of a clamped on mount at the shaft that then arc's under the handwheel to the handcrank.

    If there is a point at the red arrow area that will allow mounting (bolting, etc) then we could be good to go.

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    Ok, I forgot that "I" had one of the original Singer version.. duhhhh
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    The hand crank I ordered fits my 15-91 clone perfect. screws went right in.

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    cool! I am assuming that your "15-91 clone" does have a motor mount "boss" or lump?

    if your hand crank is a Chinese (PRC) version could you take a photo that is similar to the original singer photo above?

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    That would be awesome!! I have a beautiful Singer from the late 1800's that has no motor boss. I would love to be able to put a hand crank on it.
    ~~Cathy~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    cool! I am assuming that your "15-91 clone" does have a motor mount "boss" or lump?

    if your hand crank is a Chinese (PRC) version could you take a photo that is similar to the original singer photo above?
    On the new hand cranks I've gotten, the body is cast in one piece. I've had the same thought about mounting a crank on an old head without the boss. Simplest thing I could think of was casting or machining a boss, attaching it to the head and then attaching crank to the boss. Project wasn't feasible for me because I have a bunch of Singers waiting for a hand crank with bosses factory applied but the idea I find very interesting.

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    Steve, I have a 66 out of a treadle in repaint right now. So if you want a pic of the wheel end, with a ruler overlaid, I can do that pretty easily. I still the the problem with this kind of mount is that the 27 had a low bobbin winder, and most others have one that also attaches to the wheel shaft. Your metal piece for there is going to have to be really thin.
    Cil




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    (proud caretaker of a magenta 221, purple 222, assorted 66's, a 301, a pink Atlas and Monarch, and Granny's 201-2.

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    Sokey.... I am not at the "here is how we will do this" stage. really. I am just trying to gather the pertinent information to be ABLE to come up with that plan.

    Still waiting for pictures of the new style of handcranks.

    Yes, I would love pictures of your 66 wheel area. I have a red eye "lump" that I could take apart as well but with the Howe and all....

    It sounds like I need to get some mechanical info for the 27 as well. I will look at my 28 and my 128 hand cranks as well.

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    Steve,

    At some point in my internet surfing I saw a handcrank mount on a non-boss head where the crank mounted to the wooden base NOT to the head.

    Don't know if this info helps any - and of course I don't recall where I saw this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom3 View Post
    Steve,

    At some point in my internet surfing I saw a handcrank mount on a non-boss head where the crank mounted to the wooden base NOT to the head.

    Don't know if this info helps any - and of course I don't recall where I saw this.

    I also saw this, it was in the Treade On site and applied to a Willcox and Gibbs Chainstitcher. The W&G was attached to a nicely made "box" case and the crank fastened to the side of the case at the correct height.

    Jon

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