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03-27-2013, 09:11 PM
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Your bobbins are made with holes on one side for a reason. The reason is so that you can easily tell which way to put
the bobbin in the case and always repeat it. Always wind them with the holes facing then same way (right or left). then place them in the bobbin case the same way (holes facing out or in). Which way to put them in the bobbin case I can't tell you without seeing the bobbin case. Some machine require the bobbin to unwind clockwise or counter. Look at the bobbin case and put the bobbin it so that the thread comes off the bobbin then reverses direction as it enters the slot. In other words the thread must make a 'V' as between exiting the bobbin and entering the slot.
There is no alternative for the DBX1 needle. It is one of the most common and cheapest industrial needles available. In fact it frequently is an alternative for other needles.
Is the eye of the needle that is not working well large enough for the thread? Has the scarf always been facing to the right and it is threaded left to right. An idea is to try a top stitch (large eye) household needle in a size 12 or 14. The DBX1 and the 15X1 are the same except that the 15X1 has a flat on it's shank. It will substitute for the 15X1, but not the other way around.
I hope that this info helps in some way and isn't too confusing.
Cathy
I do not have much experience in free motion sewing.
the bobbin in the case and always repeat it. Always wind them with the holes facing then same way (right or left). then place them in the bobbin case the same way (holes facing out or in). Which way to put them in the bobbin case I can't tell you without seeing the bobbin case. Some machine require the bobbin to unwind clockwise or counter. Look at the bobbin case and put the bobbin it so that the thread comes off the bobbin then reverses direction as it enters the slot. In other words the thread must make a 'V' as between exiting the bobbin and entering the slot.
There is no alternative for the DBX1 needle. It is one of the most common and cheapest industrial needles available. In fact it frequently is an alternative for other needles.
Is the eye of the needle that is not working well large enough for the thread? Has the scarf always been facing to the right and it is threaded left to right. An idea is to try a top stitch (large eye) household needle in a size 12 or 14. The DBX1 and the 15X1 are the same except that the 15X1 has a flat on it's shank. It will substitute for the 15X1, but not the other way around.
I hope that this info helps in some way and isn't too confusing.
Cathy
I do not have much experience in free motion sewing.
Originally Posted by PJisChaos
First pic here is the stitching on the back, using her thread on top, mine in bobbin and her size 16 needle
2nd pic is the stitching on top, same thing. Don't mind the inability to accurately follow the panto by me, I am learning and these look way better than the beginning of the quilt. LoL!
3rd pic are the needles I bought on the left and her needles on the right. I took hers with me when I bought mine, for comparison. Not that it seems to have mattered but was worth a try. Engraved on her needles it does say Organ.
Maybe these pics will help, maybe not. If I can get pass this, I will move on to replacement bobbins but fear they will be just as frustrating since one side is solid and the other side has holes and there are no notches anywhere on the inside(like my other machines have to lock it in place). The babylock dealer looked at me like I suddenly grew 3 heads when I asked about them so I think I will just go somewhere else next time.
2nd pic is the stitching on top, same thing. Don't mind the inability to accurately follow the panto by me, I am learning and these look way better than the beginning of the quilt. LoL!
3rd pic are the needles I bought on the left and her needles on the right. I took hers with me when I bought mine, for comparison. Not that it seems to have mattered but was worth a try. Engraved on her needles it does say Organ.
Maybe these pics will help, maybe not. If I can get pass this, I will move on to replacement bobbins but fear they will be just as frustrating since one side is solid and the other side has holes and there are no notches anywhere on the inside(like my other machines have to lock it in place). The babylock dealer looked at me like I suddenly grew 3 heads when I asked about them so I think I will just go somewhere else next time.
03-28-2013, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizkaki
Your bobbins are made with holes on one side for a reason. The reason is so that you can easily tell which way to put
the bobbin in the case and always repeat it. Always wind them with the holes facing then same way (right or left). then place them in the bobbin case the same way (holes facing out or in).
There is no alternative for the DBX1 needle. It is one of the most common and cheapest industrial needles available. In fact it frequently is an alternative for other needles.
Is the eye of the needle that is not working well large enough for the thread? Has the scarf always been facing to the right and it is threaded left to right. An idea is to try a top stitch (large eye) household needle in a size 12 or 14. The DBX1 and the 15X1 are the same except that the 15X1 has a flat on it's shank. It will substitute for the 15X1, but not the other way around.
I hope that this info helps in some way and isn't too confusing.
Cathy
I do not have much experience in free motion sewing.
the bobbin in the case and always repeat it. Always wind them with the holes facing then same way (right or left). then place them in the bobbin case the same way (holes facing out or in).
There is no alternative for the DBX1 needle. It is one of the most common and cheapest industrial needles available. In fact it frequently is an alternative for other needles.
Is the eye of the needle that is not working well large enough for the thread? Has the scarf always been facing to the right and it is threaded left to right. An idea is to try a top stitch (large eye) household needle in a size 12 or 14. The DBX1 and the 15X1 are the same except that the 15X1 has a flat on it's shank. It will substitute for the 15X1, but not the other way around.
I hope that this info helps in some way and isn't too confusing.
Cathy
I do not have much experience in free motion sewing.
Needle, same way, scarf on inside(facing the back of the machine where I stand to quilt with it). Yes, it threads left to right and the thread 50wt thread does glide through the size 12 needle without having to tug or force it. Least when I use my dsm's with that thread or even the 40wt and a size 12 needle, I have no issues.
Both needles are round, no flat side. I spent 3 hrs last Saturday, going to every place that sold anything to do with sewing looking for DBx1 replacements(new ones in the same specs). They must not be so common here in Oklahoma City as I was unable to find any! 2 Michael's, Hancocks, 3 Wal-Marts, 2 LQS shops and finally the Babylock dealer, nothing til that last one. That is why I mentioned the bobbins, these need replaced and I fear they will be just as hard to find as the needles that aren't working. I wish I knew where to find them locally, in case I needed one in a hurry, but will probably have to stick to taking my chances and ordering online, hoping what they send fits.
Oh, just nevermind. I have been trying to get answers and help for a week now and I see that my questions are not "help-able". Is ok, I appreciate those that tried. But I am just gonna keep it the way it is and keep stitching the way it is. Simple solution and don't need any help for that as I have figured that out by myself already.
Last edited by PJisChaos; 03-28-2013 at 06:48 AM. Reason: Forget it!
03-28-2013, 06:21 PM
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I found a local shop that repairs industrial machines, talked to repair guys at both of their locations just to be sure. Both said if timing was off, no needle would work or would at the least have the same results. ie.., one skips or doesn't catch bobbin thread, neither would the other one or the reverse, one works then the other would too. Also found out bobbins are L bobbins and got a handful more while I was there. The needles I bought, the size 12, are the right ones and should work. Both said it is most likely an operator error(98% sure) as with the round shank, it's hard to line them up exact. So told me to keep trying it. Lastly, this place does carry, in stock, the 16s and any other size I may want/need available in the Goetz(?) brand I think, I know it was the german one. So, I am happy to know that the problem is me and I just need to figure out how to fix it by trial and error. Which means back to the drawing board for me with no clue "how" or any help "to".
Just wanted to update this in case some other person out there is having issues as well, maybe it will help them.
Just wanted to update this in case some other person out there is having issues as well, maybe it will help them.
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