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    Super Member janiesews's Avatar
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    Need to buy a key for an older 99

    Where can I buy a key for an older Singer Bentwood case? Thanks.
    This too shall pass.
    Janie

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    Janie,

    I've seen some on flebay, and I actually accidentally found one at my LSMG. But in lieu of that, they can be made easily. I made two from old fashioned skeleton keys. Just chop the end off and file the new end to fit the locks. I have three treadles and on bent wood case and they all take simple rectangle shaped key ends.

    If nobody else has answered you by the time I get back I'll post some pics of my home made ones.

    Joe

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    You can also use a small regular (not phillips) screwdriver to open the case. That's what I used until I bought a real key on Ebay.

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    Small padlock keys work well if you find the correct one. Check all of your luggage keys and some may work.
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    Watch Ebay. I bought an assortment of keys at one point and one of them fit my bentwood cases. You can also make one that will work from horseshoe nails which are square by chopping off the sharp points.
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    Depending on the age of the case, it may be a flat key too. I have 4 machines here that use a flat key instead of a square one. These should be even easier to make, in theory, should be able to do it with flat stock and a file.

    That said, both of the keys I have are different, one has a "flange" that holds the key in the lock unless it's locked, and one is just straight. The flanged one is circa 1936, the straight one is 1912. I can post pics if needed. (They're my 2 latest acquisitions from Calgary this weekend)
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    thanks for the replies, will look at what I can find around the house. :>)
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    I bought a singer treadle skeleton key - but I bought the wrong one. This one is trianglular and I think I need flat...if anyone needs a triangle type, direct message me and I will pop it in the mail. It should go to someone who will use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    If nobody else has answered you by the time I get back I'll post some pics of my home made ones.
    Hey Joe,

    I'd love to see this, if you don't mind. I have skeleton keys here and have often thought of doing the same thing.
    Tammi - I've found that many baby steps tend to get you further than a huge leap in followed by a huge leap out - http://www.archaicarcane.com
    Singer 411G, 301A, 2x 221 (featherweight), 222k - the holy grail, 15-90 Centennial, 27, VS2, 28 hc, 128 knee bar, 201-2, 31-15, Pfaff 130-6. Non-Vintage - Pfaff 6122, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81595 serger, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81155, 2013 APQS Lucey

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane View Post
    Hey Joe,

    I'd love to see this, if you don't mind. I have skeleton keys here and have often thought of doing the same thing.
    Here ya go.
    Pick 1 is three of the 4 I have so far.
    L = Original Singer key
    M = home made key from an old bottle opener
    R = home made key from a skeleton key

    The one not shown is the Chinese version of the original key. That came with my Chinese treadle top.

    Pick 2 is a close up of the end that fits into the lock. This type is really just a rectangle.


    As vanginney said there are triangle ones as well as the square ones you mentioned.

    Joe

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