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TGood 09-06-2012 05:50 AM

Found Treasure
 
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I have been looking for an older machine for our church sewing circle. While cleaning out a c loset in the church sewing area we discovered an old sewing case. Upon opening it we discovered this Japanese clone of the 15-90 Singer model. As you can see the wiring is in bad shape. When I plugged it in it ran full tilt. I am guessing the foot pedal was jammed or it was rewired weird. In a previous post I saw the Cord set Block can be ordered...just what I need. I was wondering if I can hook up a Singer Touch and Sew foot pedal with this machine? It has an Imperial 1 amp motor. It also came with a manual.

Thanks for your help.

Mariposa 09-06-2012 05:56 AM

Neat find! Hope you get the wiring fixed ok~

J Miller 09-06-2012 06:07 AM

T Good,

You made a good find there. Oil the machine up and it will purr for you.

As for the electrical. Everything you have there can be rewired. If you just wire the cord block exactly like it was from the wall socket end, then again from the foot controller end it will work fine.
More than likely the foot controller is OK, it the old cord that's shorted out. If that's the case it can be rewired too.

If you don't want to do that, you can purchase a new cord block set and a new foot controller from Sew-Classic and put that in. That's actually the easy way to do it.

Your two wire foot controller is electronic and with those you need to make sure it's rated for for the size of motor you're using. If it is you can use it on the clone by cutting and splicing the wire near the controller. I don't know how you'd make the connections on the circuit board and rig up a stress relief for the cord if you completely rewired it.
You could cut it's wires at the plug end and solder them into the cord block. That's an easy way to do it.

I put some pics and instructions on rewiring a foot controller in this thread:
http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...r-t199606.html

I think it's in the third post on the first page.

Joe

Candace 09-06-2012 07:07 AM

You've got a foot control right there that as Joe said, can be rewired. I'd do that before trying to adapt a modern foot control and risk doing something to the motor.

nygal 09-06-2012 07:15 AM

Lucky you!!! I am hoping to come across a vintage machine when I least expect it...hope I have cash on hand when I see it tho!! :)

TGood 09-07-2012 05:06 AM

Thanks everyone for your input.

Joe, you have done "wonders" with the old case in tatters. The orginal foot controller 'ceramic' plate is cracked. Where do you find the rating for the motor in connection with the foot control? On the recycled controller it has 120V with a dot beside it. It also has 220/240V without a dot.

irishrose 09-07-2012 06:05 PM

Your racing motor could have been a result of reversing the plugs on the foot pedal cord and the motor cord when you plug them into the block. Guess how I know? And I know I'm not the only one who's had that happen. Personally, I wouldn't have plugged in frayed wires, but then I'm afraid of electricity. You might want to PM Mizkaki about the ceramic foot pedal. I remember she said something about then and mine has overheated badly on my Admiral. It is being replaced.

I'm jealous. I want a straight stitch machine at church so I don't have to tote on every month. You'll love your clone when you get her up and running.

J Miller 09-07-2012 08:25 PM

T Good,

The amperage of the motor is more critical for electronic foot controllers than it is for the standard ones. If your old one is toast, it's easy to wire in a new one. Two screws holds the wires in.

Joe

TGood 09-08-2012 04:47 AM

What amperage of motor is required for a electronic foot control? This contol came from a 'plastic' Singer.

TGood 09-08-2012 04:58 AM

I just looked at the amps of the Touch and Sew Singer and they are 0.7 amps. Will a motor with 1 amp mess things up? Thanks for your help.

J Miller 09-08-2012 05:35 AM

All the info I have about them came from Jenny at Sew-Classic. She told me the foot controller should be rated for the same or more amps as the motor. I have two foot controllers that are rated below the motors on my machines and I haven't used them. She couldn't tell me what problems I'd have, but that the higher amp motors might ruin the controllers.

That's pretty much what I know. If you wired in that controller it might answer the question for us.

Joe

nygal 09-08-2012 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by nygal (Post 5494775)
Lucky you!!! I am hoping to come across a vintage machine when I least expect it...hope I have cash on hand when I see it tho!! :)

I had to update my own post!! I happened!! I did come across a Singer 99 while dropping off a bag to Goodwill last night. I had NO idea I'd walk out with a beauty...my Bella.

J Miller 09-08-2012 08:36 AM

They are sweet machines. I have 6-66s and 2-99s. As far as I'm concerned they are the best of the old Singer straight stitchers.

Joe

TGood 09-09-2012 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by nygal (Post 5499738)
I had to update my own post!! I happened!! I did come across a Singer 99 while dropping off a bag to Goodwill last night. I had NO idea I'd walk out with a beauty...my Bella.

Yippee for you!! I named mine Sambo...

TGood 09-09-2012 12:08 PM

I'm not concerned about ruining the controller but I don't want to mess up the motor. So if it won't mess up the motor I think I'm going to try to wire up the foot controller when the cord set box comes in. I will try to let you know how it works out.
T Good

TGood 09-09-2012 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by J Miller (Post 5499310)
All the info I have about them came from Jenny at Sew-Classic. She told me the foot controller should be rated for the same or more amps as the motor. I have two foot controllers that are rated below the motors on my machines and I haven't used them. She couldn't tell me what problems I'd have, but that the higher amp motors might ruin the controllers.

That's pretty much what I know. If you wired in that controller it might answer the question for us.

Joe

Check out this link... http://www.briansews.com/2009/10/ele...g-machine.html I found it interesting and thought you may too.

T


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