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Caroline S 10-05-2012 07:42 AM

Necchi Lydia 544, anyone have one?
 
I purchased a Necchi Lydia 544 at GW on Tuesday. The price was $29.99 but with I had a 10% off coupon and it was senior citizens 10% off day so she cost me $24.00. She does not have the cover, or any other attachments. But she came with the foot controller and I was able to plug her in to test the motor. She runs.

I had to think long and hard about adding another girl to the hoard/herd but I could not leave her there to an unknown fate. I will have to find a manual because this sewing machine is not intuitive. I don't think I would have ever figured out how to thread her without finding a Youtube video. She is one grimy, dirty girl and will be today's cleaning project. I am fascinated by this sewing machine because she is so different in every way from any of my other sewing machines. I will be posting pictures of her later today.

irishrose 10-05-2012 07:52 AM

What a wonderful purchase! Have you joined the Yahoo Necchi group? It has tutorials and, of course, answers to questions. My Necchi is so basic that I haven't had many questions, but a Lydia would be different.

Caroline S 10-05-2012 07:58 AM

I may consider the Yahoo Necchi group. But only because this sewing machine is a "horse of another color". And I really want to get into her innards. From what I have been able to determine from the Internet is that Necchi Lydias can have plastic camshaft issues. I oiled her well yesterday and played with all of the knobs and sort of figured out how she functions.

chips88 10-05-2012 08:14 AM

i love seeing what everyone gets a special machine. love to see pics later. just oogle over them.:)

cabbagepatchkid 10-05-2012 12:34 PM

Yep, can't wait to see pics! How about some "before" and "after" pics?

cabbagepatchkid 10-05-2012 01:19 PM

I was just watching a few videos about the Necchi SM's and I'm wondering which is the correct pronunciation of Necchi. The 3 versions that I heard were....Neck-ee....Neh-chee....and Knee-chee. I've always said it this way-- neck-ee. Inquiring minds would like to know :) how everyone else pronounces it.

luce321 10-05-2012 02:56 PM

I have always referred to mine as neck-ee.

Yooper32 10-07-2012 04:26 AM

Having cavorted with mine for over 40yrs. I can vouch for NeckE pronounciation.

DanofNJ 10-07-2012 09:59 AM

Yes, my first instinct was to say Neeeeecccccccchi because it sounded so Italian, but indeed it is Necke. LOL

proflex1 10-07-2012 12:12 PM

I just cleaned a Lydia. She is a beauty! Rotary bobbin, powerful motor. Well built and thought out.

Kittywolf13 10-07-2012 04:03 PM

Lucky! i just found one... but all the cams are broken. she turns but does not change stitchs or any of that sort. so bummed out over this!

Pollytink 10-07-2012 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Caroline S (Post 5563747)
[FONT=comic sans ms]I purchased a Necchi Lydia 544 at GW on Tuesday. The price was $29.99 but with I had a 10% off coupon and it was senior citizens 10% off day so she cost me $24.00. She does not have the cover, or any other attachments. But she came with the foot controller and I was able to plug her in to test the motor. She runs.

Hi, Caroline! It's me, Polly, who has the Necchi sm group on Yahoo. And hello, Irene/Kittywolf too. I have not so good news about the Lydia, unfortunately. She's infamous for having a cracked camstack and sometimes broken smaller gears. She was the first Italian Necchi that they tried using plastic in and the combination of the plastic and metal parts in the camstack did not fare well together. Over the years most of the camstacks developed cracks to one degree or another. If it's not cracked too badly she'll sometimes still do straight st and zz but no dec stitches. You can take the black end cover off by the handwheel and look inside. You have to remove a little screw in the knob to get it off first. Some of our members do have intact Lydias but not many. The camstack are or at least were available but at about $90-120. The small gears in that camstack compartment and in the bobbin case compartment may also be going bad. Irene just got one (she just joined our list) and found hers is badly cracked. I'll keep my fingers crossed that yours is still intact, at least enough to use her....let us know how it turns out! You can join the group at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/necchisewingmachineclub/
and the sister group where we have a manual and a service manual too. If you do join, just tell me in the comments that you're Caroline from the QB. I cringe every time I see a Lydia on ebay and try to clue the seller into this so they'll check it out. One last week did and changed his listing to it being a parts machine. She's so beautiful it's a shame she has this problem. There are so many other vintage Italian Necchis that are wonderful so don't give up if you'd like to have one. We like to say that now that you've planted the seed, one will find you very soon!

cabbagepatchkid 10-08-2012 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by cabbagepatchkid (Post 5564367)
I was just watching a few videos about the Necchi SM's and I'm wondering which is the correct pronunciation of Necchi. The 3 versions that I heard were....Neck-ee....Neh-chee....and Knee-chee. I've always said it this way-- neck-ee. Inquiring minds would like to know :) how everyone else pronounces it.

Hi Pollytink. I think you would be the perfect person to answer the above question. Every video that I've watched on Youtube has a different pronunciation :). I don't have a Necchi, yet, but I have been a member of the Yahoo group for awhile (Chickendust1953). A friend of mine has a Necchi Alto in a cabinet (sp?) that she wants to sell me but I'm not sure what a good price would be to offer her. From what I've read about them I get the feeling that they are not the most popular of the vintage Necchi's.

Caroline S 10-08-2012 05:58 AM

Thanks Polly for all the information about the Lydia. Mine is all cleaned up and I was unsure how to look inside to check the camstack. I did order a repro manual which should arrive sometime this week. I am keeping my fingers crossed regarding the camstacks. I will be joining the Yahoo group, thanks for the invite. Lydia is such a pretty girl after her bath. I hope she isn't a wallflower.

cabbagepatchkid 10-08-2012 07:56 AM

Here is the link to Kittywolf13's thread about her 554. It has some good pics of the broken cams. Such a sad sight :(:

http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...t-t202598.html

I hope yours is alright.

Kittywolf13 10-08-2012 08:07 AM

First you need to know that the screws are thinner then average flat head and will strip the screw of you try to force it. So look around and see if you have one that fits properly. ( my father had one.)

There is a tiny screw in the knob on the side of the machine. (the knob with the different stitches shown all around. All black knob)
Remove the screw, be careful because it is tiny! And then remove any of the screws on the four sides of the plate. After you remove those screws the plate should slide right out over the knob that turns the needle. (no need to unscrew that one) that will give you a clear view of the cam stack. Now just rotate the wheel that move the needle and it rotates the cam stack. You should be able to see of anything is wrong.
Good luck!

Caroline S 10-08-2012 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Kittywolf13 (Post 5570681)
First you need to know that the screws are thinner then average flat head and will strip the screw of you try to force it. So look around and see if you have one that fits properly. ( my father had one.)

There is a tiny screw in the knob on the side of the machine. (the knob with the different stitches shown all around. All black knob)
Remove the screw, be careful because it is tiny! And then remove any of the screws on the four sides of the plate. After you remove those screws the plate should slide right out over the knob that turns the needle. (no need to unscrew that one) that will give you a clear view of the cam stack. Now just rotate the wheel that move the needle and it rotates the cam stack. You should be able to see of anything is wrong.
Good luck!

I did that this AM.Sort of figured it out. AND, yep, cracked camshaft. But not as bad as yours. I had a feeling that it was cracked. But I am not going to relegate my Lydia to the parts pile. If she will still sew a straight stitch then I will keep her. I am having DSL issues and the repairman will be coming tomorrow. I will post my pictures then. Keeping fingers crossed as I have replaced my old computer, DSL modem, and wireless router thinking that was the problem. Aaargh!

Kittywolf13 10-08-2012 03:45 PM

I hope she will at least straight stitch for you then!! :D

Pollytink 10-09-2012 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by cabbagepatchkid (Post 5570250)
Hi Pollytink. I think you would be the perfect person to answer the above question. Every video that I've watched on Youtube has a different pronunciation :). I don't have a Necchi, yet, but I have been a member of the Yahoo group for awhile (Chickendust1953). A friend of mine has a Necchi Alto in a cabinet (sp?) that she wants to sell me but I'm not sure what a good price would be to offer her. From what I've read about them I get the feeling that they are not the most popular of the vintage Necchi's.

You're saying it right.....NECK-ee! The Necchi Alto's were the machines Mr. Jolson starting making after he left Necchi. I don't have any experience with them....maybe someone here has one. Many of the earlier Japanese machines, if all metal inside, are good sturdy machines. I'm prejudiced, of course, toward the vintage Italians and don't feel the post-Italians come up to the same standards. But, that said, I've heard good things about the N-A's. And as we say on the N list, a machine is worth what the buyer is willing to pay!! We suggest you check around the various selling sites, e.g. ebay, craigslist, etc. and see what they're selling for. And it's condition has a lot to do with it too. Be sure to try sewing on it too. Good luck and keep your eyes peeled for a vintage Italian....you'll love them....just don't buy a Lydia, LOL!

Caroline S 10-23-2012 07:12 AM

Update to Lydia
 
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Ooooh she is such a pretty girl! I have decided that her name will be Naughty Lydia. She has spent quite a bit of time under the sewing table in "time out". I took her out of "time out" a couple of days ago in order to see if she had changed her ways. Well, she has changed a little bit. Sews a very nice top stitch but the bottom stitch is loopy although not as bad as in the beginning. Tension issues, AAAARGG! Looks like more "time out" time until I have time to further my Necchi fixit skills. I received the repro instruction manual and did discover that the flat base of the machine slides out so she can be used as a free arm machine. Cool! Also, there is a switch on the back that drops the feed dogs. Another cool! And she has a a built in needle threader. Way too cool! It pays to read the manual completely front to back, LOL.

Also a picture of the cracked cam shaft. Not as bad as Kittywolf's but not worth the time, effort and $$ to fix.



Kittywolf13 10-23-2012 08:29 AM

Wow so beautiful on top and what a mess on the bottom!! Yup every single one of my cams are broken. Looks like yours faired better. Good luck with it. I'm still having an eternal debate over mine. Since she's missing the foot pedal I haven't a clue as to whether she will even stitch a straight stitch. So good luck taming the tension beast. :P

artsymatilda 03-26-2013 10:11 AM

Hello --- sorry I am late to your Necchi Lydia party
 
I just opened my mom's sewing machine (she passed away in the 90's and I am just now getting the nerve to open it) and lo and behold it is a Necchi Lydia 544, complete with all the parts and the manual! If you are still in search of the manual, I would be glad to get a copy to you. It looks like a wonderfully solid machine. Can't wait to play a bit with it! I'm a weaver and sewing handwoven fabrics is tricky unless the machine is sturdy! I'm so delighted to find my new little gem!




Originally Posted by Caroline S (Post 5563747)
I purchased a Necchi Lydia 544 at GW on Tuesday. The price was $29.99 but with I had a 10% off coupon and it was senior citizens 10% off day so she cost me $24.00. She does not have the cover, or any other attachments. But she came with the foot controller and I was able to plug her in to test the motor. She runs.

I had to think long and hard about adding another girl to the hoard/herd but I could not leave her there to an unknown fate. I will have to find a manual because this sewing machine is not intuitive. I don't think I would have ever figured out how to thread her without finding a Youtube video. She is one grimy, dirty girl and will be today's cleaning project. I am fascinated by this sewing machine because she is so different in every way from any of my other sewing machines. I will be posting pictures of her later today.


Caroline S 03-26-2013 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by artsymatilda (Post 5955923)
I just opened my mom's sewing machine (she passed away in the 90's and I am just now getting the nerve to open it) and lo and behold it is a Necchi Lydia 544, complete with all the parts and the manual! If you are still in search of the manual, I would be glad to get a copy to you. It looks like a wonderfully solid machine. Can't wait to play a bit with it! I'm a weaver and sewing handwoven fabrics is tricky unless the machine is sturdy! I'm so delighted to find my new little gem!

Thanks for your offer. I did acquire a manual for Naughty Lydia. Naughty because I never could figure out the tension problem as she still managed a straight stitch. Naughty Lydia is still sitting in the closet for "time out". When you have a chance, remove the case and check if the plastic cam stack has fractures. If it doesn't you have a double treasure, your mother's sewing machine and intact camshaft.

PECIK 10-26-2014 04:25 AM

Dear Caroline,
my mother has not manual for her "NECCHI Lydia3 Type 544". Please, can you provide to me User's Manual for "NECCHI Lydia3 Type 544"? (the simplest is PDF file by email)


Thank you for answer in advance.


With kind regards


Petr Hladik
Czech Republic

PECIK 10-26-2014 04:29 AM

Dear Proflex1,
my mother has not manual for her "NECCHI Lydia3 Type 544". Please, can you provide to me User's Manual for "NECCHI Lydia3 Type 544"? (the simplest is PDF file by email)


Thank you for answer in advance.


With kind regards


Petr

Caroline S 10-26-2014 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by PECIK (Post 6943694)
Dear Caroline, my mother has not manual for her "NECCHI Lydia3 Type 544". Please, can you provide to me User's Manual for "NECCHI Lydia3 Type 544"? (the simplest is PDF file by email)Thank you for answer in advance. With kind regards Petr Hladik Czech Republic

Petr, here is a link for the Lydia 544 threading diagram. http://www.sewusa.com/Threading_Diag...ng_Diagram.htm . The website also sells a copy of the manual, that is where I bought mine. The Necchi Lydia is notorious for having cracked camstacks. There is also a Yahoo group online for vintage Necchi sewing machines. You may consider joining that group as they may have a downloadable manual. Good luck.



Caroline S 10-26-2014 01:47 PM

Petr, here also is a link for Necchi Lydia 544 maintenance. http://www.sewusa.com/Sewing_Machine_Repair/Necchi_Sewing_Machine_Maintenance/542_544.htm .


Caroline S 10-26-2014 01:50 PM

Petr, the link to order the manual, either hard copy or PDF
http://www.sewingpartsonline.com/ins...4-lydia-3.aspx

TessyW 11-03-2014 12:25 PM

Hi everyone! Yesterday I was given my Nana's Necchi Lydia 544, it appears to be in excellent condition aesthetically, has all the original attachments and its original user manual (woohoo!) but I haven't yet opened it up to see if the camshaft is still intact...
Anyway, the machine seems like it wants go, however we have only been able to get it to spin and thread the bobbin and it won't actually sew.. Does anyone have any idea why that would be?

mary chap 04-06-2016 04:37 PM

owner's manual
 
tessy - is there any way you could share the owners manual? I now have a necchi Lydia with no manual and don't want to sink any more money into it until I know it can sew well. I am new at sewing and don't want to mess up this machine by not knowing how it works. Thks

mhollifiel 04-10-2016 12:02 PM

I have the Necchi SuperNova and my 90 year old machine guy taught me the correct Necchi pronunciation. This should put that part of the problem to rest. He says "Rhymes with Becky!"

LisaWest 09-17-2017 02:26 PM

Ciao a tutti! I am new at this but already I love it. Anyway I have an opportunity to buy a Necchi Lydia MK2 here in Italy, I was wondering if any of you can tell me if this model has the same problems with cracking cams as does the Lydia 3? My other option is to drive 5 hours to Milan and get a Supernova Julia 534. Your thoughts? Grazie!

Cari-in-Oly 09-17-2017 03:18 PM

Yes, both Lydia models have a plastic camstack and are usually cracked. You should look closely before you buy it, replacement camstacks are hard to find and very expensive.

Cari

themadpatter 10-31-2017 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by LisaWest (Post 7908094)
Ciao a tutti! I am new at this but already I love it. Anyway I have an opportunity to buy a Necchi Lydia MK2 here in Italy, I was wondering if any of you can tell me if this model has the same problems with cracking cams as does the Lydia 3? My other option is to drive 5 hours to Milan and get a Supernova Julia 534. Your thoughts? Grazie!

Did you end up getting the Julia???


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