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Originally Posted by Candace
(Post 4736747)
Yikes....here's a NAZI decal machine in my town for sale. Yikes.... http://sacramento.craigslist.org/atq/2728944283.html
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Originally Posted by bloomin'Iris
(Post 4740258)
I nominate you Miriam, it was your idea, well at least you voiced the idea. I myself would like to see such a thread, so that I can see what I need to add to my, just recently started, collection. Have a few we've managed to pick up here & there, and the sewing room is being set up to allow for future additions; these smaller machines take up less room :)
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I had been working on the things for our Christmas bazaar booth, but things can change so fast. My mom went to the doctor on Tues. to have her under active thyroid checked, and try to find out what was causing weakness in her left hand. A ct scan to check for a small stroke revealed a brain tumor, that had potentially spread from lung cancer. Also in most major organs. Starting radiation today, to hopefully control the growth and pressure on her brain. If that is successful, then possibly chemo for the rest. Too widespread for surgery. We are somewhat overwhelmed but our new family motto is "make every day count" so yall keep us in your thoughts please.
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Originally Posted by BoJangles
(Post 4737844)
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Originally Posted by vintagemotif
(Post 4738418)
I have noticed that when I treadle with my Singer 328 I get a good workout; it's not the easiest machine to treadle.
Now, my Davis NVF, Two Spools, and Singer 201 will treadle without much effort on my part. I can treadle with them all day long with not much of a workout. |
Originally Posted by BoJangles
(Post 4739633)
This machine may be a German Lion, but I wonder how rare it really is? It looks like a Japanese Clone model 15 from the late 40's/50's?
Candace I am not up on the swastika, but I know the Nazi's used that design. According to the dictionary, the Nazi's used that design with the arms bent clockwise. The swastika was also an ancient design and mystic symbol in the form of a cross with four equal arms, each bent to the right angle. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/atq/2728944283.html I know nothing about the swastika, but the design on the bed of the machine looks like lions? Is that the swastika? I don't really see any arms? Nancy |
Originally Posted by greenini
(Post 4740416)
I don't want it, lost too many relatives to the Nazi's...took me a long time to decide buying a used VW was ok.....
To me, it would not be out of respect for the Nazis that I'd want to own the machine, but for the historical value of it. |
It does appear to be a Class 15 machine, but without examining it, it would be hard to know where it was made. Class 15's were made in countries other than Japan, so it could be German, or the swastika--which has been popular in many different cultures, including India--could just be incidental. The decals are unusual, but I think the seller is putting more emphasis on them than is warranted.
Originally Posted by BoJangles
(Post 4739813)
I agree, I think it is a very cool looking machine, but I don't think it is that rare - maybe? Miz Johnny, Billy, or someone else on here might know? Just looking at the bed of the machine, it is exactly like my Japanese 15 Morse, even has the knob that drops the feed dogs on the bed. Except for the decals, it looks just like a Japanese clone from the 40's or 50's, with the really nice face plate. It has the spoked hand wheel that looks like it was originally a treadle?
I agree with Charlee, I would love to own that machine, but this guy is taking bids and who knows if you really are being outbid or if the owner is just jacking the price up! Nancy |
And if I had read all of Janice's post before posting myself, I could have saved you all some reading!! LOL!
Sending out good thoughts, Melinda.
Originally Posted by jljack
(Post 4740603)
Nancy, I have a set of Rudyard Kipling books printed in 1924 with the same "swastika" design as on this machine. (right under the lion on the center of the bed) Actually, it is an ancient symbol, and in India (where Kipling wrote many of his books) it is a "peace and goodwill" symbol. The Nazi swastika was bent the other way....these are bent to the left.
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Originally Posted by jljack
(Post 4740603)
Nancy, I have a set of Rudyard Kipling books printed in 1924 with the same "swastika" design as on this machine. (right under the lion on the center of the bed) Actually, it is an ancient symbol, and in India (where Kipling wrote many of his books) it is a "peace and goodwill" symbol. The Nazi swastika was bent the other way....these are bent to the left.
Jon |
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