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Thread: Singer Model 27 Crinkle, Perplexed

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    Singer Model 27 Crinkle, Perplexed

    I obtained this machine yesterday from my OJCG. He said he had an interesting old Singer for me. The serial number is D905664. The ISMACS site shows her to be a model 27 and being allotted 9 Mar 1909. But she is a crinkle finish, the underneath appears to be painted silver. Worst of all the case appears to have been sitting in water at some point in time as the bottom is missing. She is locked up tighter than an drum and I have given her a thorough Triflow spray soak..

    Was this machine someone's restoration? The front slide plate appears to be original but the back one is shinier and looks like a reproduction. The face plate has the crinkle finish. The hand wheel is solid, not spoked. Need some information from more experienced vintage owners. This machine just plain perplexing to me
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    I would say it's a rebuild. I've read that Singer authorized certain repair facilities to rebuild machines during and just after WW II. Those machines were painted with the black crinkle paint.

    What does look odd is the silver paint on the bottom. But I've never had a rebuilt machine to mess with, only a factory crinkle 66-18.

    I'd pull that machine out of that non Singer box and flood it with Tri-Flow oil, after taking all the plates and hand wheel off of it.

    The bottom pieces will need coaxing but I'll bet they free up pretty quick.

    Oh, if you trash that case, please save me those two hinges. My Alden's case has a broken hinge and they are all but impossible to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    I would say it's a rebuild. I've read that Singer authorized certain repair facilities to rebuild machines during and just after WW II. Those machines were painted with the black crinkle paint.

    What does look odd is the silver paint on the bottom. But I've never had a rebuilt machine to mess with, only a factory crinkle 66-18.

    I'd pull that machine out of that non Singer box and flood it with Tri-Flow oil, after taking all the plates and hand wheel off of it.

    The bottom pieces will need coaxing but I'll bet they free up pretty quick.

    Oh, if you trash that case, please save me those two hinges. My Alden's case has a broken hinge and they are all but impossible to find.

    Joe
    The hinges are yours. Rusty critters that they are. I will take some pics of the top also if you are interested.

    The machine has been sprayed inside liberally with Triflow. Yep, the handwheel is next to come off. It is good to know that this machine is probably a Singer rebuild. The motor is not a Singer motor. More pics will be coming soon. Ah, one more project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline S View Post
    The hinges are yours. Rusty critters that they are. I will take some pics of the top also if you are interested.

    The machine has been sprayed inside liberally with Triflow. Yep, the handwheel is next to come off. It is good to know that this machine is probably a Singer rebuild. The motor is not a Singer motor. More pics will be coming soon. Ah, one more project.
    Caroline
    Caroline,

    You need my address or do you have it already?

    Yeah, I'd be interested in the top too.

    "Ah, one more project." -- No kidding, I can't get the current one finished before 3 more seem to pop up.

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Caroline,

    You need my address or do you have it already?

    Yeah, I'd be interested in the top too.

    "Ah, one more project." -- No kidding, I can't get the current one finished before 3 more seem to pop up.

    Thanks,

    Joe
    I have your address. I was thinking that sending you the whole shebang, top and bottom, would be best. I sure would hate to ruin those hinges trying to remove them. They look like they are riveted on and are rusty.

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    OK, that will work. The hinges are attached to the back of the bottom by screws from what I can see. But they can be a PITA to remove.

    Joe

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    I will leave the PITA to you. The wiring is junk, the motor looks OK. Have not tested it yet. The handwheel, the best I can determine is from a model 66. Getting ready to try to pull it.
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    Whatca gonna do with the motor - feets controller and wiring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Whatca gonna do with the motor - feets controller and wiring?

    Joe
    Gonna keep the motor. Tested it and it runs perfectly. The foot controller I think I will take apart and see if I can re-wire it if needed. The other wiring is toast, brittle and bare.

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    If you're not gonna use it, send me the cord block and the toasty, brittle and bare wire.

    Rewiring foot controllers is a piece of double dutch chocolate cake.

    Joe
    Last edited by J Miller; 08-07-2012 at 04:12 PM.

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