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Old 12-17-2014, 05:37 PM
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I just finished sewing 3 covers made out of a packing blanket on my 15-91. I used a size 18 needle which was the largest size I have on hand. But I note that my manual says to use a size 21 to sew "very heavy materials comparable to sailcloth, denim, ticking".

I could have used a larger needle to complete the job. Does someone know if size 21 needles are sold and where I can possibly buy them?

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from the UK:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIZE-21-100-...item2a40c8e15e
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Wow. 100 is WAY more than I need, but thanks!
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you can buy size 21 needles at an industrial sewing machine supply place and your shaft will most likely accept the needle. The questions: Is there enough room for the needle and thread to pass through the hole? If the needle hits will it scar, burr or possibly bend your needle plate - then below that, nick the hook and causing burrs. If the thread rubs against the hole or a burr it WILL shred. I would test this out very slowly.
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The needle should be sized to the thread size being used, regardless of the material being sewn. Small thread, small needle. Large thread, large needle.

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you can buy size 21 needles at an industrial sewing machine supply place and your shaft will most likely accept the needle. The questions: Is there enough room for the needle and thread to pass through the hole? If the needle hits will it scar, burr or possibly bend your needle plate - then below that, nick the hook and causing burrs. If the thread rubs against the hole or a burr it WILL shred. I would test this out very slowly.
I get what you're saying. I checked the fit with the plate with the size 18 needle, just as you described, before I sewed.

And you've confirmed my belief that size 21 is an "industrial" needle. I was just not sure if they are also sold as "nonindustrial" because I didn't think they would be in my "nonindustrial" machine manual, if they were'nt.
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The needle should be sized to the thread size being used, regardless of the material being sewn. Small thread, small needle. Large thread, large needle.

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Yep. I get this too. I was trying to convey that although I made it through the project okay, I think a tad larger needle would have helped.

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I get what you're saying. I checked the fit with the plate with the size 18 needle, just as you described, before I sewed.

And you've confirmed my belief that size 21 is an "industrial" needle. I was just not sure if they are also sold as "nonindustrial" because I didn't think they would be in my "nonindustrial" machine manual, if they were'nt.
The biggest I've seen non industrial is an 18 and that is correct - match your needle and thread. I think the biggest I used was a 22 and it sewed through about 16 or more layers of canvas grudgingly then I think I nicked something and made a burr.
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Actually with something small like a pillow a hand crank might give you more power than a motor.
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Oooooh. I covet a handcrank, but I can't find one in my area for any type of decent price. I envy the folks in other parts of the country who are still able to acquire vintage machines. Very little available around here. But I continue to look.
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