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Thread: Vintage Sewing Machine Shop.....Come on in and sit a spell

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    I found a pre-cleanup pic of the MW with the variety of stitches controlled by a lever on the very top - good machine once it was clean - I would buy another one at the right price:
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    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Grant,

    The size of the handwheel does not affect the speed of your sewing, but the diameter of the wheel at the belt groove does. A normal solid handwheel will work with treadling. The larger outside diameter of the spoked handwheel only helps to keep things running smoothly due the the larger centrifical force of the higher weight/ mass. (Hope that is clearer than mud.)

    Cathy
    Thank you Cathy. I was worried about the spinning mass and if that affected how it ran without the flywheel mass. The belt grove seems to be about the same size as the original wheel. Good info.
    ~G~

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    MW zzer made by Happy:
    It looks like a 60's Kenmore. Even the stitch length control looks like a Kenmore.
    ~G~

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    Basically the larger hand wheel acts much like the fly wheel on a car, evening out the power strokes when you treadle. It's also easier to grab to start and stop the machine as you use it.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I found a pre-cleanup pic of the MW with the variety of stitches controlled by a lever on the very top - good machine once it was clean - I would buy another one at the right price:
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    Miriam,

    That almost looks like a 3/4 size machine on my monitor. Am I seeing right?

    Joe

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    Joe it was a full size machine - not specially large though - seemed like a good one though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grant15clone View Post
    Oh, I had a good weekend. I re-homed two machines this weekend to some great people that were just so nice. The Dressmaker is gone as is the machine that I was holding for my honey. I think that they both went to the right homes. I get great satisfaction with that. But I digress. Because I freed up some space and the cabinet looked so nice, my honey (of all people) told me to grab this one today off of CL. That free space in the living room sure didn't last long. I'm not so sure about the machine but the cabinet is so nice. I want to put my Blue Morse 15 clone in it and learn how to treadle with it. This is my first treadle. That sounds like fun to me to be honest. I'm worried about the handwheel size with it though. Is it going to be too fast and "jittery" with that size handwheel? This is the cabinet and the sad 66 taken from the ad.

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    This is my Morse clone that I would like to put in it in place of the sad 66.

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    Will this work? I don't want it to be too fast and I don't want to change out the handwheel either. Has anyone done this before? I could just keep the Morse electric and use the antique Singer cabinet to house it but I want it to do both as an option for each. Any and all input is welcome and you won't hurt my feelings. I want to learn here.

    ~G~
    Grant I understand you wanting to treadle the Morse, but what is wrong with the Redeye? I see it is missing the slide plate, but those are easy to find? A lot of people on here sew with their 66's. I have several 66's and they sew great. As far as putting the Morse in the treadle cabinet - I have never tried to put a Japanese clone in a Singer cabinet. I have no idea if the hinges will line up. If I remember right, I think someone on here said they would?

    I have a Singer 319w in a Singer treadle cabinet. I have tried the 319 in two different Singer cabinets. The 319w will slide on the hinge dowels perfectly, sit perfectly in the cabinet, and treadle great, - but I can't put the machine away. It won't lower. It is not because of the spool pins either, it is the size of the head. The 319 has a much thicker head than the older 27/127's, 15's, or 66 heads. On one cabinet the drop down middle drawer was in the way of putting the head down and away, in a second cabinet the block that holds up the cabinet openings hit the machine and wouldn't close. The 15 clones may work. I am interested in seeing what you have to say after you try putting that machine in the cabinet - whether it lines up right with the hinges and whether it can be lowered and closed up.

    Nancy

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    Ok I have never had a machine dropped on my porch like Steve just had, but I got a call from a guy who was given my name by someone I must of met at a sewing social. He wants me to take his wife's grandmother's Jone's treadle that has been in their family from the beginning. He says it is in pristine shape. He called me before Christmas. I am going to see the treadle today. I know I will probably bring it home! Is there no hope for us! I hope it is the one with the yellow rose, but I'd bed it is the same as my Jones HC because he said it says Jones CS! I will post photos later - if I get the machine!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Grant I understand you wanting to treadle the Morse, but what is wrong with the Redeye? I see it is missing the slide plate, but those are easy to find? A lot of people on here sew with their 66's. I have several 66's and they sew great. As far as putting the Morse in the treadle cabinet - I have never tried to put a Japanese clone in a Singer cabinet. I have no idea if the hinges will line up. If I remember right, I think someone on here said they would?

    I have a Singer 319w in a Singer treadle cabinet. I have tried the 319 in two different Singer cabinets. The 319w will slide on the hinge dowels perfectly, sit perfectly in the cabinet, and treadle great, - but I can't put the machine away. It won't lower. It is not because of the spool pins either, it is the size of the head. The 319 has a much thicker head than the older 27/127's, 15's, or 66 heads. On one cabinet the drop down middle drawer was in the way of putting the head down and away, in a second cabinet the block that holds up the cabinet openings hit the machine and wouldn't close. The 15 clones may work. I am interested in seeing what you have to say after you try putting that machine in the cabinet - whether it lines up right with the hinges and whether it can be lowered and closed up.

    Nancy
    Hi Nancy. You are right. I put it in the cabinet last night and I think it looks fantastic.
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    It fits in the opening, the hinges line up and it clears the drawer and sides but I think that the feet cast into the bottom of the machine prevent it from going all of the way down into the cabinet opening, thus preventing the top from closing. HOWEVER, if the motor was removed (not needed) and the block of wood that is screwed to the inside of the lid were to be removed, it WILL FIT and close properly.
    As to the poor old 66, the old gal has seen better days and the cabinet is worthy of a nicer machine. The bed has been repainted, decals are mostly gone as is the Singer name. The chrome is bad on the entire machine. Including the faceplate, back plate, and footplate. The slide is missing too. I think she might be a parts machine or a repaint project.
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    I do have a question about the 66 head though. I read that the Singer machines made before 1901 did not have the motor lug cast into it. And all of them from 1903 and on, all have them cast into them. This machine was made in 1910 (serial # G340707) and does not have the motor lug cast into it. Can anyone help answer that?
    Thanks.
    ~G~

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    The future of the simple sewing machine for easy mending and sewing projects. This gal is very innovative.
    All should enjoy this link, but I thought of Cathy first while watching the video that is attached to this link. The machine called the Alto is a simple machine with simple repair.
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