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02-18-2012, 10:38 AM
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Miriam,
I just tried the chopstick with an eye bolt on the end. The thread got caught in the opening of the eye. So I tried more binder clips. Here is the pictures of what I came up with. The binder clip holds the chopstick to the spool pin, but it was moving back and forth as the thread is pulled through. I fixed that by putting paper around the spool pin to tighten the binders's grip on the pin. Miriam, I think I like this better than the suction cup. Thanks for the idea.
Cathy
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I just tried the chopstick with an eye bolt on the end. The thread got caught in the opening of the eye. So I tried more binder clips. Here is the pictures of what I came up with. The binder clip holds the chopstick to the spool pin, but it was moving back and forth as the thread is pulled through. I fixed that by putting paper around the spool pin to tighten the binders's grip on the pin. Miriam, I think I like this better than the suction cup. Thanks for the idea.
Cathy
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Originally Posted by miriam
Now that should go a long ways in solving the world's problems!!!! I've had to put thread in a vase on the floor , run the thread up and over the thread pin before. The arm across would help a lot. I wonder, if you have the right height vase maybe you could hold the chop stick on the top of the vase with a clip so thread has room to pass - put an eye bolt on the chop stick end and put that over the thread holder with the clips to guide the thread. I don't do very good with those suction cups for some reason...
02-18-2012, 10:51 AM
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Cathy, I love the look of your spool pin doily. Did you make it? If so did you use string or yarn and would you care to share the patteren? Kathie
02-18-2012, 10:53 AM
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Miriam,
I just re-read your statement. If I understand what you said correctly, you want to put the eye bolt on the end of the chopstick and place that eye bolt over the spool pin. In that arrangement the chopstick would swing and move and would and not stay directly over the thread spool. If you can secure the eye bolt to the spool pin I think that the might work, however chop sticks are not made with strong wood and I think it would split easily where the eye bolt is screwed in. Just my thoughts.
Cathy
I just re-read your statement. If I understand what you said correctly, you want to put the eye bolt on the end of the chopstick and place that eye bolt over the spool pin. In that arrangement the chopstick would swing and move and would and not stay directly over the thread spool. If you can secure the eye bolt to the spool pin I think that the might work, however chop sticks are not made with strong wood and I think it would split easily where the eye bolt is screwed in. Just my thoughts.
Cathy
Originally Posted by miriam
I wonder, if you have the right height vase maybe you could hold the chop stick on the top of the vase with a clip so thread has room to pass - put an eye bolt on the chop stick end and put that over the thread holder with the clips to guide the thread. I don't do very good with those suction cups for some reason...
02-18-2012, 11:19 AM
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Nancy,
Ok Cathy, now I am really confused. I understand completely what you are saying about the thread needing to come off the end. Are you saying whether the spool was designed to come of vertically or horizontally - the thread still needs to feed off the end? No, Some spools are designed to reel off the side of the spool, such as most regular C&C, Gutermann, etc.
I have a Janome and a newer Pfaff embroidery machine that have spool pins that feed either way. I do understand that when the thread is positioned on the horizontal spool pin it feeds off the end and when seated on the vertical spool pin it feeds off the end. It comes off the side when on a vertical spool pin.
Now I am confused about the way the thread is wound on the spools. I think visually you can tell what the thread path should be by how the thread is wound on the spool/ cone. When the thread is cross wound such as in a cone it should come off the end. If a spool with regular winding is placed so that the thread is pulled off of the end, the thread can catch the notch on the end of the spool. That is why the old Touch & Sew machines came with a huge spool cap Wider than the end of the spool pin) for the thread to slide over.
It seems to me if the thread is both instances has to feed off the end, it shouldn't matter whether the thread is sitting horizontally or vertically when the thread is sitting on a thread guide behind the machine and feeding to the machine from the top of that thread guide? Correct, there is no difference in vertical or horizontal placement of the spool/ cone if the thread is being pulled off of the end.
What is the problem with metallic threads then? I would have to sit own and play with some metallic thread. I don’t know what the problem is.
Nancy
Cathy
Ok Cathy, now I am really confused. I understand completely what you are saying about the thread needing to come off the end. Are you saying whether the spool was designed to come of vertically or horizontally - the thread still needs to feed off the end? No, Some spools are designed to reel off the side of the spool, such as most regular C&C, Gutermann, etc.
I have a Janome and a newer Pfaff embroidery machine that have spool pins that feed either way. I do understand that when the thread is positioned on the horizontal spool pin it feeds off the end and when seated on the vertical spool pin it feeds off the end. It comes off the side when on a vertical spool pin.
Now I am confused about the way the thread is wound on the spools. I think visually you can tell what the thread path should be by how the thread is wound on the spool/ cone. When the thread is cross wound such as in a cone it should come off the end. If a spool with regular winding is placed so that the thread is pulled off of the end, the thread can catch the notch on the end of the spool. That is why the old Touch & Sew machines came with a huge spool cap Wider than the end of the spool pin) for the thread to slide over.
It seems to me if the thread is both instances has to feed off the end, it shouldn't matter whether the thread is sitting horizontally or vertically when the thread is sitting on a thread guide behind the machine and feeding to the machine from the top of that thread guide? Correct, there is no difference in vertical or horizontal placement of the spool/ cone if the thread is being pulled off of the end.
What is the problem with metallic threads then? I would have to sit own and play with some metallic thread. I don’t know what the problem is.
Nancy
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02-18-2012, 11:23 AM
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Nancy,
Yes, my setups work just like the thread stands.
Cathy
Yes, my setups work just like the thread stands.
Cathy
Originally Posted by BoJangles
Cathy the set up you made works exactly the same as one of those black stand alone thread guides that sit behind your machine. The spool sits on a spool pin, is fed up to a thread guide, then over to your machine thread guides. That should cause any spool of thread, even the cones to work properly? That is what I did with the metallic thread, but it did cause a tension problem because of all the knots that formed underneath my work. Nancy
02-18-2012, 11:32 AM
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Candace,
Elk Grove! You are just around the corner (long corner).
I have many electrics. My collection is a nice mix of electric and people powered. I'm much too lazy to do everything on a treadle or handcrank. VBG In fact I'm too lazy to do much sewing.
I bought a treadle Two Spool last year. I haven't sewn on it yet. I will, though.
Cathy
Elk Grove! You are just around the corner (long corner).
I have many electrics. My collection is a nice mix of electric and people powered. I'm much too lazy to do everything on a treadle or handcrank. VBG In fact I'm too lazy to do much sewing.
I bought a treadle Two Spool last year. I haven't sewn on it yet. I will, though.
Cathy
Originally Posted by Candace
Yes, I'm in your area! Elk Grove:> I'm an electric girl only at this point, though. I am eyeing two spool machines now. You all are bad enablers!
02-18-2012, 11:44 AM
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Kathie,
No, I didn't make them. I have a friend who makes and sells these. (She did try to teach me...and gave up.) She used crochet string. I showed her one that I bought and she then just "winged" it. I doubt that she wrote down a pattern, but I'll ask. Would you like to borrow one to copy?
Cathy
No, I didn't make them. I have a friend who makes and sells these. (She did try to teach me...and gave up.) She used crochet string. I showed her one that I bought and she then just "winged" it. I doubt that she wrote down a pattern, but I'll ask. Would you like to borrow one to copy?
Cathy
Originally Posted by Kathie S.
Cathy, I love the look of your spool pin doily. Did you make it? If so did you use string or yarn and would you care to share the patteren? Kathie
02-18-2012, 11:48 AM
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No, I didn't make them. I have a friend who makes and sells these. (She did try to teach me...and gave up.) She used crochet string. I showed her one that I bought and she then just "winged" it. I doubt that she wrote down a pattern, but I'll ask. Would you like to borrow one to copy?
Cathy not only are you a great sewing machine person but you are also a mind reader. I would love a copy of the pattern. Thank you. Kathie
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Cathy not only are you a great sewing machine person but you are also a mind reader. I would love a copy of the pattern. Thank you. Kathie
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02-18-2012, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kathie S.
No, I didn't make them. I have a friend who makes and sells these. (She did try to teach me...and gave up.) She used crochet string. I showed her one that I bought and she then just "winged" it. I doubt that she wrote down a pattern, but I'll ask. Would you like to borrow one to copy?
Cathy not only are you a great sewing machine person but you are also a mind reader. I would love a copy of the pattern. Thank you. Kathie
Cathy
Cathy not only are you a great sewing machine person but you are also a mind reader. I would love a copy of the pattern. Thank you. Kathie
Cathy
Kathie, This is not exactly the same. I haven't made this yet. I had it in my bookmarks for a quick project.
http://www.hookedonneedles.com/2010/...-easy-and.html
02-18-2012, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Kathie S.
No, I didn't make them. I have a friend who makes and sells these. (She did try to teach me...and gave up.) She used crochet string. I showed her one that I bought and she then just "winged" it. I doubt that she wrote down a pattern, but I'll ask. Would you like to borrow one to copy?
Cathy not only are you a great sewing machine person but you are also a mind reader. I would love a copy of the pattern. Thank you. Kathie
Cathy
Cathy not only are you a great sewing machine person but you are also a mind reader. I would love a copy of the pattern. Thank you. Kathie
Cathy
Kathie, This is not exactly the same. I haven't made this yet. I had it in my bookmarks for a quick project.
http://www.hookedonneedles.com/2010/...-easy-and.html
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