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Thread: Just a little vent...dog related/friend related

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    So In August our chihuahua had her 1st litter of pups. And my friend wanted one so bad, so my husband let her have one. She said she'd pay us $10 a wk for the dog (we wanted $50). So it's now April and all together she's only paid us $4.

    Anyway, this morning she calls me and wants to know if I want the dog back, apparently its peeing on everything. Which i don't understand because after she took the dog and i was at her house the pup did so well going potty outside. Well a few wks ago she had to have one of her other dogs put down, so idk if thats why this pup is acting like this or what. So I took the dog back. Put it on a leash and tied it to my door knob, well my 3 yr old is sitting next to it playing w/ mr. potato head, and the dog lifts its leg and pees on my son's jeans! omg.

    So I do not want to keep this dog. It needs a patient caring person to retrain him, and I just can't do it w/ my 3 kids, 3 other dogs and my chi had another litter last week! So now I'm scrambling to rehome this pup. Sigh. Posted on craigslist, not the wisest thing, but you know. Now i wait til my hubby comes home and sees him (he's on 2nd shift). :shock:

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    That is NOT what I would want in a dog. I have a male who was not well trained as a pup. He still thinks it is ok to lift his leg in the house at times and he is 8 years old. No new carpet until ......? :?

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    Yeah I know...but I really would hate to have to take him to a shelter. :?

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    Oh my goodness -- not nice dog behavior at all!! Hope you find a home for it soon. Sounds like it was almost mistreated....

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    I feel sorry for the dog. I have a feeling that it wasn't treated right and that is why is started peeing on stuff. Why else would it go from being potty trained to peeing on stuff.

    $50 is cheap!! What a good friend you were to offer it for so cheap! My mother-in-law gets $300-$400 for her chi's.

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    Oh carp...what a dilema! Is there a chi rescue group anywhere around you? You are right, the poor thing needs someone who will love and be patient with him to get him retrained. Best of luck to you and the pup.

    I'm not sure I'd need lots of friends like that one :?

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    My Dog Boi is trained well i had to retrain him but sometimes he want to squat and peep on my carpet and run and hide that is when i know he did something and sometimes he want to poop i was in the hospital my sun say he did it twice i think he missed me it is just because, in which he knows better. I say sometime i am getting rid of him my nerves and anxiety can not take it but when you look at those eyes and the love he give i can not

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    Any dog I've ever bought has a "Return to breeder" clause in the contract. Luckily, I never had to return one, but I think that is what a responsible breeder would do. Is this new litter from the same mom?

    I think you might have other issues besides the peeing. All dogs pee. Could it be your friendship is not what you thought? Is it that he peed on your kid? Well, stuff happens. I doubt if the dog plotted some revenge against your child, if, after all, he was tied to the door and unable to flee.


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    I think that puppy is a bit confused and got that way from his "new" home and now you have brought him back and he is confused again...
    I know you don't want the dog but try and put him on PETFINDER.com this is so much better that CraigsList....
    If I lived closer, I would foster him for you.
    Also, check out a rescue group for the puppy....they do wonders with dogs going or gone awry.
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    their is a woman that contacted me thats from a local small breed dog adoption. And i'm going to check the place out.

    I just think it was irresponsible of her. Last night, I found 2 ticks on him, and one was obvious if you were sitting there playing w/ him. idk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonpi
    I think you might have other issues besides the peeing. All dogs pee. Could it be your friendship is not what you thought? Is it that he peed on your kid? Well, stuff happens. I doubt if the dog plotted some revenge against your child, if, after all, he was tied to the door and unable to flee.
    I think this is a rude comment.

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    I agree with Moonpi. Not rude, just an opinion.

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    I honestly do not mean to be rude here, however I must ask who in this scenario has the PUPPY's best interest at heart?

    I'm probably going to regret saying anything about this on a quilting board, but you chose to vent here, so for the sake of the DOGS I am going to point out the obvious.

    Breeders have a responsibility to take back puppies that are not working out, for any reason, to keep them as long as it takes to find an appropriate home for them, and to never ever take their puppies to animal shelters. People who choose to bring litters into a world that is overpopulated with dogs, have a responsibility to place their puppies in situations where those animals will be cared for forever.

    If your friend could not afford to pay $50 for a puppy, did you wonder how could she afford a trip to the vet for shots, or if there was an accident and the pup needed more than routine veterinary care how she could pay for all of that?

    Also, I can't help but wonder how can you put your own bitch through the stress of having two litters in less than a year?





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    President Obama's new dog had been in 3 homes before he got him. I thought this was sad. Sen Kennedy had him trained before giving him to the girls. Some dog owners don't train them well. That happened to us with a dog and we both worked. He was never fully trained. We had him 9 years and loved him though.

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    if you have a caring vet, ask him/her if you can put up a poster in the office offering the dog to a loving home. sometimes a family that has just put a dog down will take a young dog to their heart.

    we got our cat, anastasia, that way.

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    In the meantime restrict him to less space until he gets the idea. Like a small kennel . He will learn if he is not allowed to have alot of area to move around in. This is not mean it is teaching him there is a place to sleep and lay down and there is a place and time to relieve himself. I have housebroken many dogs over the years and the trick is they generally won't go where they have to lay down.
    But make sure he gets to go out and get some exercise! I know you don't want him but this is damage control and it is tempory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhonda
    In the meantime restrict him to less space until he gets the idea. Like a small kennel (2 foot square). He will learn if he is not allowed to have alot of area to move around in. This is not mean it is teaching him there is a place to sleep and lay down and there is a place and time to relieve himself. I have housebroken many dogs over the years and the trick is they generally won't go where they have to lay down.
    But make sure he gets to go out and get some exercise! I know you don't want him but this is damage control and it is tempory.
    I agree he is probably feeling unwanted(confused) and marking his territory to say this is my home!

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    [quote=Rhonda]
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhonda
    I agree he is probably feeling unwanted(confused) and marking his territory to say this is my home!

    FINALLY!

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    [quote=butterflywing]if you have a caring vet, ask him/her if you can put up a poster in the office offering the dog to a loving home. sometimes a family that has just put a dog down will take a young dog to their heart.
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    This is an excellent idea. Years ago I found the tiniest Poodle I've ever seen in the middle of a highway. It came to me instantly as I slowed the car and called it. Took it to the vet after no one ever claimed it (may have fallen from an open car window) and he instantly said he had a home for it. He had just put down an elderly poodle for an older lady. She wanted another one and would get this one. I didn't want him to charge for it..he just laughed and said this way, giving it to her he would have the Poodle as a patient for the rest of the dog's life.

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    What happened to the male chi puppy?

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    OP has not posted in about 2 years.

    There has been a lot of puppy posts lately, while I agree they are all cute and lovable (who doesn't love a puppy?) let's remember there are 4 MILLION (that's 4,000,000) unwanted dogs and cats killed every year because they can't find homes. Even if you KNOW you have good homes lined up for your litter, that means someone else's dog or cat will likely be put down.

    If you really love your furbabies, consider spaying and neutering. JMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtHomeSewing
    I honestly do not mean to be rude here, however I must ask who in this scenario has the PUPPY's best interest at heart?

    I'm probably going to regret saying anything about this on a quilting board, but you chose to vent here, so for the sake of the DOGS I am going to point out the obvious.

    Breeders have a responsibility to take back puppies that are not working out, for any reason, to keep them as long as it takes to find an appropriate home for them, and to never ever take their puppies to animal shelters. People who choose to bring litters into a world that is overpopulated with dogs, have a responsibility to place their puppies in situations where those animals will be cared for forever.

    If your friend could not afford to pay $50 for a puppy, did you wonder how could she afford a trip to the vet for shots, or if there was an accident and the pup needed more than routine veterinary care how she could pay for all of that?

    Also, I can't help but wonder how can you put your own bitch through the stress of having two litters in less than a year?

    Couldn't agree with you more Connie, on all points.

    As the breeder, you have a responsibility to re-home this puppy properly. That means a family that is capable of providing a good loving home and has the means to care for the dogs well being - including financially. You also have the responsibilty to the family recieving such dog that he doesn't come with the "baggage" of being a leg lifter, which means that you'll have to break him of this habit.

    You also have the responsibility to neuter this boy BEFORE you place him into another home.

    Sorry if this rubs the wrong way, but these are things that I expect from ethical and knowledgable breeders. They breed responsibly with an eye toward health and temperament issues, they screen puppy buyers carefully to make sure they will be good parents, they continue to support the buyers with questions and problems, they take puppies (and adults) back from buyers for whatever reason, and they re-home them properly. And again sorry if this offends, but it's subject near and dear to my heart as I am a breeder, and I also work breed rescue, but if you don't have the time to do all of these things, then you probably should seriously consider if breeding is something that you should be doing.

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    I can't really help you with your problem, but it sounds like your friend didn't continue to work with the potty training. I've always had Chows, which very rarely do you have to do house training.

    I don't mean to be "rude" or anything like that, but since you have 3 dogs, 3 kids, and from what I understand one of the females had a litter, so you have at least 2 females, since this puppy is from a previous litter. There are WAY too many dogs and cats in this world and not enough homes, there are MILLIONS of dogs and cats that are put to death yearly. Are you a "recognized" breeder? If not, I would urge you to seriously consider getting all your dogs spayed or neutered.

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    Have to agree - I used to breed Labradors and the last litter had one come back she was a nightmare with dreadful behaviour due to the way she had been treated by the owners but I kept her until she was about 6 months old and retrained and she turned out to be a lovely girl - I also had her spayed and then re-homed her - I don't breed now as I feel it is wrong with so many unwanted dogs

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    Just wish I lived close enough to take the poor puppy. :(

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