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    If you live where there is planted field nearby then you have chemicals in the air, water, and soil. Organic fields use chemicals deemed safe for the product but not for the environment. No farmer wants to waste water and food for weeds but why care about weeds in a yard? Mow or weed them short and they look just fine. Round Up works by increasing the growth of the plant so much it can't keep up with itself and dies out. Really like a turbo Miracle Gro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PB from MN View Post
    There is a great deal of misinformation available and unfortunately we have people such as Dr Oz and the media, who only like to give part of the story. Here is an article with more information:
    http://www.askthefarmers.com/glyphos...-a-carcinogen/

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    That is a great article. Thanks for sharing.
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    "There is a great deal of misinformation available and unfortunately we have people such as Dr Oz and the media, who only like to give part of the story. Here is an article with more information:
    http://www.askthefarmers.com/glyphos...-a-carcinogen/ "


    This is not a scientists blog, this is a farmers daughter. A farmer who produces GMO corn. There are many modern farmers that advocate the widespread use of GMO chemicals, and pesticides. This is their living, and many are funded by these chemical companies, especially those producing GMO soybean and corn. They are going to support the use of these chemicals and downplay their impact.

    Or you can read on the American Lymphoma website, and many medical websites, scientific research, and on Beyond Pesticides to read the impact these very chemicals and GMO products are having on the lives of "the everyday citizen", which in this article said is largely unaffected. Know your sources. This article advocates GMO's and pesticides.
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    DH uses vinegar and dawn. For the really stubborn ones he mists them with ammonia. We've had couple really thick batches of poison ivy in our yard and use the Dawn vinegar and ammonia. DH brushed up against a small patch and didn't take him long to start itching. He immediately grabbed Dawn and started washing his hands and arms. best thing to use. Never needed the Calamine or any other lotion. [QUOTE=just_the_scraps_m'am;7160441]what bugs me the most is that there has to be a natural alternative, but apparently it doesn't make as much $$ as chemicals that kill... and if you're buying/eating organic b/c you think it's safer

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    Round Up is a diluted form of Agent Orange.........the defoliant used in Viet Nam. That is what is being sprayed on the fields and our food. If you live near a farm that uses this make sure you stay inside or leave when this is being done. It is a definite carcinogen, skin irritant, lung irritant........and I could go on and on. Just BE AWARE !

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    This is old but it tells you about Monsanto and how they infiltrate the Gov.
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    Michael Taylor, former Monsanto Vice President, is now the FDA Deputy Commissioner for Foods.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/he...4fda.html?_r=0
    Roger Beachy, former director of the Monsanto-funded Danforth Plant Science Center, is now the director of the USDA National Institute of Food and Agriculture.
    http://www.organicconsumers.org/usda_watch.cfm
    Islam Siddiqui, Vice President of the Monsanto and Dupont-funded pesticide-promoting lobbying group, CropLife, is now the Agriculture Negotiator for the U.S. Trade Representative.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_A._Siddiqui
    http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...icle_20276.cfm
    Rajiv Shah former agricultural-development director for the pro-biotech Gates Foundation (a frequent Monsanto partner), served as Obama's USDA Under-Secretary for Research Education and Economics and Chief Scientist and is now head of USAID.
    http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...icle_19665.cfm
    http://www.naturalnews.com/037310_ba..._lobbyist.html
    Elena Kagan, who, as President Obama's Solicitor General, took Monsanto's side against organic farmers in the Roundup Ready alfalfa case, is now on the Supreme Court.
    http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/201...k-elena-kagan/
    Ramona Romero, corporate counsel to DuPont, has been nominated by President Obama to serve as General Counsel for the USDA.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ronnie..._b_642385.html
    http://climate-connections.org/2014/...anto-betrayal/
    http://whoismonsanto.com/sources/124-2


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    I use one gallon of the strongest vinegar I can find pickling is what I use most with one forth cup of orange oil and a good tablespoon of dawn. It kills very fast except woody things I have to do over two or three times.

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    thanks for all the info, dandelion is edible by the way [if you don't spray it with roundup] and if you would like to eradicate it, you must pull ALL of its root system or it will return...


    the use of DDT was much the same, except used decades earlier; it took 20-30 years and a biologist to lead the way to a worldwide ban -- it is still found in the earth today....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT
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    sometimes when I hear "dr oz said" I immediately think of National Enquirer publications. All scare tatics to get eyeballs and never the whole story.

    But on the issue of things we use with carcinogens I'm gobstopped by the members who absolutely refuse to consider rinsing out their fabrics before adding them to stash. Why do you think there aren't any more big fabric mills in the US? Because they can still subject employees to known toxics in other countries and they can't here.

    Life is a circle and while we all wish we could be vigilant about every single thing, we sadly also base our actions on what is the easy way...
    I've had both breast and lung cancer by the way. The lung cancer was very rare, seldom seen in the US, much more common in the far east. What did I do to give myself that?

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    But on the issue of things we use with carcinogens I'm gobstopped by the members who absolutely refuse to consider rinsing out their fabrics before adding them to stash.
    Or let their children wear clothes right off the rack without washing first? Fabric is loaded with chemicals from dyes and sizing. Think of the chemicals in new carpet that will stay in the house for a long time. My friends thought I was nuts having a room with new carpet steam cleaned with water only the very same day it was installed. My grands were to play on that carpet in an enclosed room.
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    I read once a few years ago there is a way to deter the weeds from coming back in the spring. I printed the method and filed it away and would have to search for it at this point, but what it entailed was two different spreading applications of natural substances about 2 weeks to a month apart when rain would not be imminent. Like first layer in late January or early February and second layer following. All I can remember at this point is that one of the applications had corn meal in the mixture. Supposedly what this does is suffocate or smother out the seeds from germinating that were dropped into the ground from last years weed crop. I have seen a mixture in bags at Lowe's that has the corn meal for the lawn. Anyone familiar with this?

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    Water is a chemical. Just saying (for those that say they don't want chemicals on their lawn).

    Roundup itself is not in genetically modified corn. It's genetically modified so that roundup can be used on it and it won't kill the corn, only the weeds around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gale View Post
    Water is a chemical. Just saying (for those that say they don't want chemicals on their lawn).

    Roundup itself is not in genetically modified corn. It's genetically modified so that roundup can be used on it and it won't kill the corn, only the weeds around it.
    http://www.prevention.com/food/smart...now-about-gmos

    this article explains what GMO's are. Produce created with GMO seeds are saturated in chemicals (pesticides) throughout their growing process.
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    That article addresses pesticides inserted into plant DNA. That's for insect resistance. Roundup is an herbicide, not a pesticide. The post that I was referencing says this: "Since I read several articles about how Roundup is now in genetically modified seed corn, I buy only organic corn products, such as in cereal, canned corn or chips."

    Unfortunately with the low price of grain and the high cost of fuel and fertilizer (natural or otherwise) large and medium scale farmers can't break even without using chemicals. You can only use mechanical methods to get rid of weeds in the first few weeks of crop growth and even at that point, weeds can quickly overtake a field and lower yields enough to cause loss of income. Crop insurance doesn't help either. Seed that isn't pest resistant can be ruined before it even breaks ground and there's no good cost-effective way to avoid pests coming into a 5000 acre field.
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    Thank you Gale. There are two sides to every story, and everyone thinks the other side is greedy and getting rich. The fact is we all like our lifestyle and relatively cheap food. And farmers need chemicals to feed us the way we like to eat at prices we can afford. Over 50% of Americans are overweight, so maybe those folks should all just eat less. Less food consumed, less produced, less chemicals used......simple.

    But isn't it interesting that our politicians are in bed with Monsanto....and I don't trust either of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by gale View Post
    That article addresses pesticides inserted into plant DNA. That's for insect resistance. Roundup is an herbicide, not a pesticide. The post that I was referencing says this: "Since I read several articles about how Roundup is now in genetically modified seed corn, I buy only organic corn products, such as in cereal, canned corn or chips."

    Unfortunately with the low price of grain and the high cost of fuel and fertilizer (natural or otherwise) large and medium scale farmers can't break even without using chemicals. You can only use mechanical methods to get rid of weeds in the first few weeks of crop growth and even at that point, weeds can quickly overtake a field and lower yields enough to cause loss of income. Crop insurance doesn't help either. Seed that isn't pest resistant can be ruined before it even breaks ground and there's no good cost-effective way to avoid pests coming into a 5000 acre field.

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    And that is exactly the reason Monsanto is so powerful-they put a LOT of money into politicians' pockets. Monsanto is, unfortunately, a necessary evil for most farmers-they are very close (despite their claims) to being a monopoly.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...135253110.html

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    ....are we all ready to grow our own produce, raise our own meat products, weave our own cloth? Aren't those places called third world countries? Most of us would not survive without stores.......

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    "....are we all ready to grow our own produce, raise our own meat products, weave our own cloth? Aren't those places called third world countries? Most of us would not survive without stores...…"

    not necessarily, much of Europe still exists like this, France, Italy, Ireland, Germany, Greece, to name a few. Russia and Most of europe has been boycotting and trying to ban Monsanto from coming in and setting up GMO crops, its been a long hard battle but they are winning, although Monsanto won't stop, they are finding GMO crops in Europe that weren't planted there or allowed, Monsanto still insists on opening up big headquarters throughout Europe and they continue to fight them off. Much of Europe has banned most of the pesticides and herbicides that we use all over this country, along with GMO.
    There should be and are alternatives to the disgraceful poisoning of our ecosystems, animals, and produce. but its big business, and heavily infiltrated into the political processes of this country.

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    Vinigar with a small amount of Dove soap added can get rid of a lot of weeds. If you have an area with weeds that you don't want to plant again use 1 gal vinigar 2 cups epsom salts and 1/3 cup dove soap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nativetexan View Post
    I still see commercials with professionals spraying someone's lawn, wearing regular clothing and shoes and walking forward as they spray for weeds, bugs, etc. When i spray for dandelion's, I walk backward and don't spray on windy days either. I hate chemicals but do use them. carefully.
    Spray dandelions with vinegar. Spray in the middle of the plant. Vinegar is good for killing many weeds. Just keep it on what you want to die.

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    another area where we can do something as individuals is to quit using household cleaners with phosphates
    Our beloved dishwashers with their high phosphate content soaps...
    "The category got a lot less sleepy in July 2010 when, for environmental reasons, several states banned the use of phosphates as an ingredient in dishwasher detergent. (Phosphates can cause algae overgrowth in lakes and ponds, disrupting the ecosystem.)" from http://www.slate.com/articles/busine..._of_2011_.html although the same info is on hundreds of websites.

    An area of my state (spokane washington) was one of the areas were it was banned. My SIL orders it in from other states. Are we, here, willing to forgo convenience for healthy ecosystems? I doubt it, far easier to shout about what someone else is doing wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vschieve View Post
    I read once a few years ago there is a way to deter the weeds from coming back in the spring. I printed the method and filed it away and would have to search for it at this point, but what it entailed was two different spreading applications of natural substances about 2 weeks to a month apart when rain would not be imminent. Like first layer in late January or early February and second layer following. All I can remember at this point is that one of the applications had corn meal in the mixture. Supposedly what this does is suffocate or smother out the seeds from germinating that were dropped into the ground from last years weed crop. I have seen a mixture in bags at Lowe's that has the corn meal for the lawn. Anyone familiar with this?
    Was it corn glutton meal? That is what is used around here, spread it and water it in before the seed start to sprout and it kills them before they sprout.

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    Similar thing w/corn. My husband walks a rural route wherein the sprayer unloads weed killer on weed & ground and drops the corn seed at the same time. The seed germinates in these chemicaled soils and then we ingest them when we eat the corn.

    Several years ago Monsanto (I think the source for RoundUp) sued a farmer for using seed he'd save from his crop of the previous crop. Needless to say, no corn or corn products in my home.

    Folks on Pinterest are suggesting full-strength white vinegar as a weed killer. Will be using it this summer.
    Last edited by Suz; 04-12-2015 at 09:46 AM.

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    We don't use anything like that. I had Ivy growing where I didn't want it to grow. I tried pulling and digging it out, I ended up pouring a gallon of white vinegar on it and it killed it but now I have dandelions growing. I will try it on them. Would probably work on our gravel driveway.
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    We don't use anything on our lawn either. I don't mind dandelions (our bunnies and chickens love them) but the really bad weeds, we just pull. Like those dang stick-tight things that get on everything-I try to pull those when they're small and don't have stickers yet. We don't use any fertilizer either. It just fends for itself. lol.

    But as far as the food supply, we're at the mercy of what the farmers use.

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