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Mamagus 03-08-2018 09:47 AM

Copyright?
 
If you were to see a Christmas decoration in the craft store; it is a miniature figure of an elf. You come home and sketch out the little elf, changing a few things, forgetting others, dress him in different coloured clothing and make an appliqué pattern from your sketch for your own use, are you infringing on the artist's copyright?

Tiggersmom 03-08-2018 10:22 AM

Good question. I'm not sure. However if you are going to mass produce them you might have a problem but if it's for your personal use that's another question.
Did the tag have any copyrighted logo on it?? I know Disney is very active in protecting their items. War this a local artists item or a mass produced item from say, China?

nativetexan 03-08-2018 10:49 AM

if it is for your own use, absolutely No. and again No if you changed so many things and sold them. we all see things that bring out our own ideas. have fun.

Onebyone 03-08-2018 11:08 AM

No. I don't understand why you would fret over something like this. You have to copy exactly, claim the design as your own, and start selling them to be doing something wrong.

Annie68 03-08-2018 12:35 PM

No, go ahead for your own use.

JustAbitCrazy 03-08-2018 01:01 PM

If you read copyright law, it says if what you create is recognizable as the original or recognizable as being based on the original, it's an infringement.

Onebyone 03-08-2018 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by JustAbitCrazy (Post 8018254)
If you read copyright law, it says if what you create is recognizable as the original or recognizable as being based on the original, it's an infringement.

An Elf is an Elf. The clothing and facial expression can't be copied but the Elf image can be.

Jan in VA 03-09-2018 03:18 PM

My mantra has always been, "when in doubt, don't."
https://www.copyright.gov/title17/

Jan in VA

Stitchnripper 03-09-2018 03:30 PM

I wonder if it is okay just to use your creation in your own house if that is okay. I saw a table runner in a craft show and came home and adapted the design for my daughter in law. It wasn't very complicated. But it is one item -

cashs_mom 03-09-2018 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Stitchnripper (Post 8018994)
I wonder if it is okay just to use your creation in your own house if that is okay. I saw a table runner in a craft show and came home and adapted the design for my daughter in law. It wasn't very complicated. But it is one item -

Well, unless someone comes to your house and then reports you to whoever did the original design, I'd say you're okay. You're not selling it, you're not even showing it. And if I found out who reported it, they wouldn't get invited back.

Lady Diana 03-10-2018 06:14 AM

Go ahead and use your design. Elf images are everywhere, just like Ohio Star quilt, or whatever block design you can imagine that are "out there" in the public for hundreds of years....just like an elf image. You have designed your own.
USE IT WITHOUT FEAR.

NanaCsews2 03-10-2018 01:49 PM

If we all found a picture of a recipe, bought all the ingredients, made it look exactly like in the posted picture, are we supposed to just stand there and look at the gooey, chocolately creation, or are we allowed to eat it too.
How far would you have to go to prove it was someone else's idea? Go ahead and create your elf.

Rose_P 03-10-2018 02:57 PM

Elves are ubiquitous. It would have to be extremely unusual to fall under any copyright protection after you have made significant changes. However, if it still looks a whole lot like a specific, recognizable elf, say from a movie or children's book, then you'd need to be careful, but seriously, think about some of the elves that are commonly seen. Is the Elf on the Shelf recognizably different from elves we used to see on Christmas ornaments and cards in the 1950's? I don't see how! Is there a significant difference between him and say, a Keebler elf for that matter? Maybe Keebler needs to sue whoever came up with Elf on the Shelf? How about Snap, Crackle and Pop? Google "elf" images and see if there's anything that makes yours seem too much like some other and then be sure to change that. They seem to be a very standard cultural icon. You wouldn't worry about duplicating someone else's work if you were creating a Santa figure, and he's just another kind of elf, imo. (I'm not a lawyer.)


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