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As far as having a certain calculator for a class - it is so much easier for everyone to have the same kind of calculator for both the student and the teacher.
It is soooooo annoying to have to wait for that one student to be told how to do something on his odd-ball calculator and it is also sooooooooo embarrassing to be that student to be the one with that odd-ball calculator. |
does anyone know how much of the lotto wins is 'suppose' to go for schools?
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I'm old and my kids were young 40 years ago.....things have changed in a way I can no longer relate to. I have a son that is poor and he has two girls in elementary school...one is a special needs child. It is almost impossible for them to get all on "the list" so I send $... what I can to help out. They are made to feel like failures if they don't provide for all. The teachers are stressed....there just isn't money in the coffers for school supplies and then when they need the electronics, it is impossible!
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I've always sent extra supplies with my grands, and give my teacher friends money to help them defray costs, or for that student who doesn't have what they need. As far as food goes, the school my grands attend offers free breakfast, lunch, and after school snack. They also have a weekend program, where kids can bring a backpack home, that has three meals in it. The need is very real. This is a highly rated school with open enrollment that draws from a large area. It's easy sometimes to forget how fortunate we are.
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The cost of supplies is ridiculous. I'm hoping that once I become a teacher, that I'll be able to relieve some of the burden on my students parents.
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Way back when the dinosaurs still walked the earth - when in the lower grades - we had classroom scissors that were dull with rounded points that were passed out before and collected after "art" class, a big gallon jar of paste that smelled kind of minty that dabs were portioned out of (no glue sticks back then).
I think we were "issued" a box of 8 color crayons. Crayola brand was best, than Prang (? - the box was mostly black). One year they gave us some icky ones, but I don't remember the brand. I think we brought our own pencils. Of course, there were one or two kids that had to bring in a BIG box of crayons and a scissor that had sharper points. I think the school supplied things like construction paper, rubber bands, staples. But back then, the only calculators we had were in our heads and pencil and paper, Ball point pens were a novelty - and expensive. Man oh man - did I just date myself! |
I went with my daughter in law for my granddaughter's school supplies. I could not believe the cost and she did not get everything on the list. Of course I could not believe how many items on the list was for the teacher. My son got our grandson's list and completed it for $40. A pack was put together by the store for his school and grade. That was great.
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I started this thread, and after reading all the posts, I got to thinking: our employers furnish everything we need in order for us to do our jobs. So why aren't our taxes paying for the supplies our teachers need to do their jobs? We should be complaining to our politicians. My hat's off to all our teachers. They have a hard enough job teaching without having to spend their own money to furnish the classroom or ask parents to help with the cost. (getting off my soap box now.)
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Originally Posted by SSStitches
(Post 7620121)
Took my middle school grandson to his orientation, $25 for PE uniform, $90 for class fees! Then supplies $45. Add the cost of school uniforms. I get to take his brother, a senior, tomorrow. WOW.
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Originally Posted by Stitchit123
(Post 7620516)
I went school shopping with a friend -her last baby starts high school. The first thing on the list was a laptop-they even specified that it had to be larger than 11 inch and not to exceed 18-how many mega some things it had to have plus they have to have 3 memory sticks to start out with. The color choices are black or grey-NO flashy colors to distract the students.And the icing on this cake of Specifications -the laptop MUST be new-no refurbs or used ones will be allowed.The only exceptions to this is if they had one last year that is already registered with the school. $380 spent before she even got to the second item on the list. I am so thankful I no longer have a kid in school.
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Originally Posted by coopah
(Post 7621131)
I don't know about WalMart, but the office supply and big box stores (Target, KMart) carried the lists from each school and each grade level and had them available near the door. As teachers, we sat down before school was out and decided what was absolutely needed. We finally added one ream of copy paper, wet wipes to clean desks, and tissues so we could tell a nose-picker to 'please go get a tissue". Families would buy what they could and some families who were blessed would step up and buy more. We never required anyone to come with extras and I personally always bought the things needed for those who couldn't afford them out of my own pocket. Nothing was said, no one was embarrassed...but it helps the classroom to have these things. And 24 pencils? That's nothing! Some kids chew on them, break off the eraser...you can't imagine what a pencil in a 2nd grade goes through in one day! That's about one new pencil a week.
Jane Quilter :Schools are required to teach 180 days in most states. With more vacations, it stretches the year out. Pluses and minuses to that one. Purple Passion: At the end of the year we would send home extras if there were enough for each student to get a fair share. Otherwise, we would adjust the list for the next year and/or store them for kids who would start in the middle of the year. (Some of these are homeless or escaping an abusive situation and are protected under the McKinney Act.) Our PTA always had backpacks for new students who couldn't afford the list items so that when they came into the classroom, they would not be embarrassed or feel 'different' in any way. Sorry this is so long. The teachers are not profiting by asking for these things. Most of them. And I never got $800 to spend on anything, unless it was a grant for a specific purpose, which had to be documented. Go volunteer if you want to know what happens to the items you buy. Edited to add and refine comments. Someone mentioned about poorer students and at least they have food--not all do!Because my DIL is not well, and my son is "working poor", with 3 young children,we supplement their food resources pretty routinely. Unfortunately, I know so many people my age that are doing the same thing for their children and grandchildren. |
I would add that as a parent I always appreciated my children's elementary for waiting until after the kids showed up and then assigning half the class to bring in tissues, half to bring in hand sanitizers, and then dividing up those items that would only be used in class not on a daily basis--like play money when they were learning about it, special art supplies, etc. That did help cut the cost of the list and also meant that no one went without.
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My daughter in law is a teacher in a small town in western Wyoming. Each year she has to spend hundreds to have special books she wants to use in class, any special art projects (holiday stuff), as well as buying reams of paper to copy off her lessons. Worse yet, sometimes there isn't even toner for the copier so that becomes a problem. Schools have the same problems we do... everything costs more for them too, rising health costs, liability insurances, property insurances, repairs, maintenance, equipment, food costs, cleaning items, etc etc etc. Yes, taxes go to pay for all of this, but to cover the rising costs, taxes have to go up also. Teachers pay isn't all that great either. They are entrusted with the care of 20 to 30 children roughly 8 hours a day, 9 months of the year. That doesn't include all of the time at home doing lesson plans, taking the required education credits to stay certified and volunteering to be coaches/leaders for school activities.
She has also been known to send peanut butter and jelly home with crackers because the children will not have food for the weekend in some cases. It is a real problem, not just some made up boo hoo sob story. Please consider giving them supplies for gifts instead of another mug or plaque or ornament. They can use supplies for a real purpose and let's be real, no one needs/wants another "greatest teacher" mug or wooden apple for their desk. If you can't afford to buy all of the items, talk with your school counselor or church and they can help point you in a direction for some aide. |
Originally Posted by moonwork42029
(Post 7623518)
My daughter in law is a teacher in a small town in western Wyoming. Each year she has to spend hundreds to have special books she wants to use in class, any special art projects (holiday stuff), as well as buying reams of paper to copy off her lessons. Worse yet, sometimes there isn't even toner for the copier so that becomes a problem. Schools have the same problems we do... everything costs more for them too, rising health costs, liability insurances, property insurances, repairs, maintenance, equipment, food costs, cleaning items, etc etc etc. Yes, taxes go to pay for all of this, but to cover the rising costs, taxes have to go up also. Teachers pay isn't all that great either. They are entrusted with the care of 20 to 30 children roughly 8 hours a day, 9 months of the year. That doesn't include all of the time at home doing lesson plans, taking the required education credits to stay certified and volunteering to be coaches/leaders for school activities.
She has also been known to send peanut butter and jelly home with crackers because the children will not have food for the weekend in some cases. It is a real problem, not just some made up boo hoo sob story. Please consider giving them supplies for gifts instead of another mug or plaque or ornament. They can use supplies for a real purpose and let's be real, no one needs/wants another "greatest teacher" mug or wooden apple for their desk. If you can't afford to buy all of the items, talk with your school counselor or church and they can help point you in a direction for some aide. |
Originally Posted by Geri B
(Post 7621396)
Thats ridiculous! What happened to books, notebooks? If the kids are glued to computers they may as well stay home and take classes like some adults take college courses.
a lo-o-ong time ago when my youngest was in elem. school and calculators were popular.....the teacher was asking that the kids bring a certain type to class. I marched over and told the teacher, not my kid....you will teach her how to use her gray matter first, then we will discuss calculators...ended that request!- til the last quarter of that year...entitled intro to calculators...... Our DD works in grade school & some of the parent stories would curl your hair.Teachers are there because they love to teach.It's a hard job today with hungry kids,many who learn nothing in their homes. Just a mixed up ball of wax.DD's answer to what kids should know when they start school ? No means No. |
I was helping fill backpacks with school supplies from school lists to give to kids that needed them. One mom was calling everyone she knew to come to the center and get the free supplies. She was saying why buy them, they are giving them for free, come and get some. Many can buy but won't when they can get them free from donation groups. The kids that really are in need, the parent can't get to the center in the first place.
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Just today had a conversation with gd, my ggd is entering 1sr grade...how time does fly--a whole different topic-- but anyway, she told me her friend is a janitor(politically incorrect?) at a local school and he knows from experience that at end of school year all those left over supplies that parents are required to purchase at the onset are thrown out.....why, I want to know! Should be a more positive solution to that...like a school store managed/operated by parent organization might be useful. Or just carry over for next year and cut list of what parents must contribute, or some other creative way of using not just tossing!
and she did say her list was asking for 30 sharpened pencils among other ridiculous things. My question why not just have a pencil sharpener. Oh, I am so happy I'm pasted that time...I would have been a troublemaker! |
I am glad for once that kids have cell phones. They have a calculator that eliminates the expensive one the teachers want you to buying
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this is how i remember my grade school years, also. love to smell that purple ink
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I know when my kids went to school, i bought supplies all year long and stored in plastic containers, you can always get pencils, crayons, glue, notebooks on sale through out the year.
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