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Geri B 03-07-2017 09:23 AM

Gray printing!
 
Lately I have noticed in mags and on line the use of gray in the printed matter as opposed to black....I know my eyes are getting weaker and reading gray print is difficult.....or is it just me?

dunster 03-07-2017 09:44 AM

I think all of our eyes are getting weaker, and publications should realize that. What bothers me most is when they print red on black. Or sometimes even purple on black! And of course it's always small print. (And don't get me started on the muttering on TV. Speak up, people!)

gramajo 03-07-2017 09:52 AM

I have a problem reading white print on any color.

quiltsRfun 03-07-2017 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by dunster (Post 7779477)
(And don't get me started on the muttering on TV. Speak up, people!)

Here! Here! Also loud background music that drowns out the dialogue.

nativetexan 03-07-2017 11:03 AM

yep, another way to save money I believe.

SHELTIE'SMAMA 03-07-2017 11:23 AM

I thrive in my reading chair when I have a "daylight" bulb in the lamp. Pricey but worth every penny to me. Just like the 'daylight' I have at every workstation in mt sewing room. Might be worth a try.

Geri B 03-07-2017 11:53 AM

...and lately on tv many drama type series are having dialog in foreign languages with it being printed at bottom of screen...white letters...great to try to decipher with lite background, like mans shirt! Or better yet the text on someone's cell phone or computer screen.....sorry folks I don't have a theatre size screen on my tv......

nativetexan 03-07-2017 12:10 PM

he, he. i was having trouble reading white subtitles on light bkground the other day and my son went into Menu and enlarged the picture on the screen. it actually helped a bit. i still prefer them on black and wish they would put them at the top of the screen rather than cover the action. Same with news banners on the bottom. put on the top please!

Jingle 03-07-2017 04:17 PM

Black on white paper, is easier for me to read. Sometimes I wish there were not so many choices.

cindyb 03-07-2017 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by nativetexan (Post 7779539)
he, he. i was having trouble reading white subtitles on light bkground the other day and my son went into Menu and enlarged the picture on the screen. it actually helped a bit. i still prefer them on black and wish they would put them at the top of the screen rather than cover the action. Same with news banners on the bottom. put on the top please!

I love Jenny Doan's tutorials BUT she also has the subtitles on the bottom of the screen, which gets in the way of hr demo.

pennycandy 03-07-2017 06:28 PM

It isn't only printed materials or text on tv. Do not get me started on the tiny print on the microwave keyboard.

The knobs on my stove have a very light grey line to identify how high or low the heat is. I can't see it and have to remember which side of the knob was on off before I turned the burner on. I hate it and think it's a safety hazard. Thank goodness there is a click when I turn it to the off position.

QuiltnLady1 03-07-2017 07:55 PM

I can say I agree with everyone. Some web sites use print so small that I go up 150% (if you are using IE, in the lower right corner there is a down arrow that you can click on to adjust the print). Of course, when I go to a site with normal print I have to re-adjust. The worst one for me is the bank --so tiny. I have given up trying to see the date on the watch (I swear it keeps shrinking). I got one .pdf that I could not increase large enough to read.

GailG 03-08-2017 04:10 AM

Amen! to this! (I should have clicked on reply with quote :o) I'm referring to dunster's post about dark print over black and mumbling on TV.

Geri B 03-08-2017 05:06 AM

And it gets worse.......printed info on vitamin/otc drugs....and sometimes even packaged/boxed semi prepared food....I have resorted to a hand held magnifying glass to read some instructions/information......

misspriss 03-08-2017 05:14 AM

Not only do they need to quit mumbling, but slow down.

Sew Freak 03-08-2017 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by dunster (Post 7779477)
i think all of our eyes are getting weaker, and publications should realize that. What bothers me most is when they print red on black. Or sometimes even purple on black! And of course it's always small print. (and don't get me started on the muttering on tv. Speak up, people!)

a r t i c u l a t e !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Kitsie 03-08-2017 10:11 AM

Except for the commercials!! (muttering)

farmquilter 03-08-2017 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by quiltsRfun (Post 7779480)
Here! Here! Also loud background music that drowns out the dialogue.

I thought it was just me, it drives me crazy trying to hear the voices.

NanaCsews2 03-08-2017 12:34 PM

All my pet peeves too. Not to mention the weather people on local tv stations standing in front of our state when telling us the weather.

nlgh 03-08-2017 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by nativetexan (Post 7779539)
he, he. i was having trouble reading white subtitles on light bkground the other day and my son went into Menu and enlarged the picture on the screen. it actually helped a bit. i still prefer them on black and wish they would put them at the top of the screen rather than cover the action. Same with news banners on the bottom. put on the top please!

I hear you!!!! I also agree about the banners at the bottom of the screen, too.

I agree with the other complaints, too, about the gray lettering and red (and other colors) on black. I have had cataract surgery 3 years ago and find I need brighter light than before surgery, too.

nlgh 03-08-2017 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Geri B (Post 7779961)
And it gets worse.......printed info on vitamin/otc drugs....and sometimes even packaged/boxed semi prepared food....I have resorted to a hand held magnifying glass to read some instructions/information......

This, too, is a pet peeve of mine. I don't like listening to someone sing who looks and sounds like he is almost kissing the mike. If I could see their lips, I might understand the words, especially if I have never heard the song before.

maviskw 03-08-2017 08:33 PM

And the other day, the weather man interrupted the Wheel of Fortune bonus round to tell us that a thunder storm was coming. Grrrrrr We never did find out if she won the $100,000. Grrrrrr

Geri B 03-09-2017 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by NanaCsews2 (Post 7780272)
All my pet peeves too. Not to mention the weather people on local tv stations standing in front of our state when telling us the weather.


Id rather watch a weatherman in a suit, or even just shirt/pants, than some of these weather gals ...in some really snug, short outfits and of course all long straight hair.......

trustme2 03-09-2017 06:51 AM

sub-titles, some are closed captions' and can be turned off
 

Originally Posted by cindyb (Post 7779685)
I love Jenny Doan's tutorials BUT she also has the subtitles on the bottom of the screen, which gets in the way of hr demo.

That is the closed caption option and can be turned off.

ktbb 03-09-2017 07:49 AM

I, too, have a hard time with gray on white, especially on-line. One trick I use on the computer is to click and drag my cursor over the text I'm trying to read, and the resulting highlight of the text usually provides more contrast than the original so it's easier to read. I'm starting to email the administrators of these websites to complain about the use of grey and other low contrast colors...

Garden Gnome 03-09-2017 12:55 PM

Do you notice that often TV ads aimed at older people are slower, plainer speaking, not a lot of screen changes. For younger target audiences, the ads get loud music, throbbing beats, color flashing, with each screen lasting less than a second. Even if I have my eyes closed, it is disturbing to have all that flashing on the screen, particularly in a dark room. Like strobe lights. Feels like it could produce a seizure, in anyone! Hardee's ads are some of the worst!
I don't know if they do it like this because so many younger folks have short attention spans, or because older folks are slower to comprehend. Maybe some of both. #So Sad!

JanieH 03-09-2017 03:36 PM

I have noticed the different colors of ink in a lot of magazines, especially TV Guide. It is so frustrating. It is bad enough that the print is so small; I can work with that. But when it is gray or another light color I many times have to skip over it. It is not worth the frustration!

JanieH 03-09-2017 03:38 PM

Oh, my other pet peeve is trying to find the use by/expiration date on many products. It seems to me that printing it under the price code would make it easier for everyone to find - same place no matter what the product!

Onebyone 03-09-2017 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by SHELTIE'SMAMA (Post 7779516)
I thrive in my reading chair when I have a "daylight" bulb in the lamp. Pricey but worth every penny to me. Just like the 'daylight' I have at every workstation in mt sewing room. Might be worth a try.

I put the daylight LED bulbs in every socket in the house. Even have then in the outside lights. I don't like the dark.

quiltingshorttimer 03-09-2017 05:21 PM

I just read elsewhere that both tv and movies are now doing their audio so that it picks up all the background noise that would normally be in the scene--cause they can I guess. And in the past all that stuff was either omitted or truly background and the actual speaking was emphasized so no, we aren't all going deaf, it's just that we can't hear the actors cause of all the music, background noise, etc. Maybe commercials don't do this and that's why it seems like they are yelling at us!

liking quilting 03-10-2017 05:15 PM

Neon yellow highlighters used on desc. and numbers on purchase invoices our office manager brings to me for posting. I took it to the copy machine and when photocopied, the highlighting disappeared. The neon highlighting just hurt my eyes! Fine print is getting pretty painful too.

romanojg 03-11-2017 05:22 AM

I hate that it seems all instruction sheets or manuals are using really micro small print. I know I'm getting older but I can still thread my needles with out glasses so I know its not my eyes. The print is so small this year when I ordered a new pair of glasses I got the bifocal ones. Most thing I can read and I don't use glasses to read a book but is an instruction sheet so costly that you have to make the print micro small. I think not.

I agree Dunster on the muttering rather on TV or in person. Drives me crazy. I know I also have hearing issues but if someone uses a normal pitch I can hear them just fine. I also have a big problems with different accents, I do more shaking my head like I understand what's being said than I do actually hearing them.

romanojg 03-11-2017 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by SHELTIE'SMAMA (Post 7779516)
I thrive in my reading chair when I have a "daylight" bulb in the lamp. Pricey but worth every penny to me. Just like the 'daylight' I have at every workstation in mt sewing room. Might be worth a try.

I love my Daylights, I have the ultra slim one on my sewing table, I bought the one that mounts on your machine and it comes with an extra mounting bracket so you can move it from machine to machine. Since I have more than two machines I got 2 extra brackets. I also bought their new yo-yo light and then I won one that sits on the table and has different lights. The lights really help and don't mess with my eyes the way some bright lights do.

JanieH 03-11-2017 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by quiltingshorttimer (Post 7781034)
I just read elsewhere that both tv and movies are now doing their audio so that it picks up all the background noise that would normally be in the scene--cause they can I guess. And in the past all that stuff was either omitted or truly background and the actual speaking was emphasized so no, we aren't all going deaf, it's just that we can't hear the actors cause of all the music, background noise, etc. Maybe commercials don't do this and that's why it seems like they are yelling at us!

Thank you, thank you for this information. I have been really concerned about my hearing this past year or so and this really has relieved some of my stress. I have noticed when I watch reruns of older t v shows or older movies that I don't have this problem. So I am not going crazy, just a victim of new technology!

clem55 03-11-2017 02:29 PM

llI agree!! I know my hearing is bad, but even with the aids on I can't understand 1/2 of what is said. A lot of it has to do with how fast they talk. Never have problems with the commercials!!lol



Originally Posted by misspriss (Post 7779970)
Not only do they need to quit mumbling, but slow down.


tranum 03-12-2017 01:28 PM

Some of our newspaper was hard to read, printing too light and fuzzy besides. I mailed it to the Editor, with a letter of my displeasure. We quit the paper so can't attest if it's better now.


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