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dixiebelle162002 06-30-2011 05:35 PM

If I had been there I would have stood! It think it is a disgrace that more people don't stand and show respect. It makes me very sad to see how this country has changed and it isn't for the better.

irishrose 06-30-2011 05:38 PM

My condolences for the loss of your daughter. I'll gladly stand along side of you in respecting our flag. I am a daughter of Navy, mother of Air Force and Marine, grandmother of Navy, Marine and Army . The AirForce had a medical release. I did have all four branches covered before that.

jaciqltznok 06-30-2011 05:40 PM

I remember at the military bases growing up, at the movies they always played the National anthem before the movie started...

I would have stood, saluted and then slowly turned and scowled at everyone one of them!

rusty quilter 06-30-2011 05:54 PM

All I can say, is that I am so glad that you and your husband STOOD. We have much to be proud--and not so proud of in the country--but we need to stand tall for our flag and the people who served under it. I am so sorry for the loss of your daughter. The human sacrifice is most often forgotten by those whose famil has not served.

clynns 06-30-2011 06:09 PM

Every year Hilliard, Ohio has a 4th of July parade. All the kids, grandkids and great grandkids come for the parade. When the colors pass by, EVERYONE on the street stands. I'll send a picture on Monday after the parade. Those who are around who don't stand get told about it. A few years ago, I sat at the parade working on the binding on my American Flag quilt. And when the colors came by, my daughter helped me hold it up proudly.

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it!

littlehud 06-30-2011 06:23 PM

I would have stood with you. I have taught all my children to stand with their hand over their heart when the flag passes and the national anthem is played. They need no prompting. Now DGD does it too.

raedar63 06-30-2011 06:34 PM

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First off I am sorry for your loss.
Second, I may have been kicked out of the theater for the lack of respect shown for those who have served for my as well as their freedom. I don't take it lightly. I took a punch in the eye from a man I reminded to show some respect once and would do it again. I also quit a job because my boss showed total disrespect during a ceremony led by elderly VFW men. This outrages me!

Charlee 06-30-2011 06:41 PM

I'm standing with you Tommie! I am so sorry to hear that your daughter had to give her life for our country, and for the idiots that treat our country with disrespect.
~MEGA HUG~

chocoholic 06-30-2011 06:49 PM

I am so sorry that you had to be hurt like that. The ignorant in this world need a good shaking to realize what our military and their families sacrifice. I, too, would stand with you as would my VietNam era hubby. God bless you.

arimuse 06-30-2011 06:52 PM

"unlike some other countries we do not force people to honor our flag, so we need to bee the examples like you and your DH"

I would stand anywhere for the National Anthem, and I always sing along, and I know the whole song and several of the full verses. I don't stand for anything else. We do not and should not ever make it a forced condition to stand for any of it. We need to show our children what it means and we stand in respect for our songs, not in fear of force. You acted as an example and should always, if it is in your heart to do so. You shouldnt feel bad about those who don't, they might not have an understanding or closeness to the flag you do, but you had the chance to show people a better way and took it. That is commendable

When I was a kid, esp in grade school, we had tons of things we did for INDIVIDUAL presidents birthdays. There was none of this - lets all roll them together, oh, and lets put them all on Monday. Do they even have a Flag Day lesson in schools anymore?? How many people dont even own flags or hang them out, or worse, just leave them out night and day (dont put them up at night!) until they tatter. As a kid NY, we used to have a huge thing for Memorial Day, a parade, tons of flags everywhere, all the graves decorated. Each cemetary in town had a special ceremony, a vets day at the clubs (VFW, LOOM, etc) in town. The VFW had a chicken BBQ, and the members all showed up in their respective dress uniforms for it. Memorial Day (in memory day) was started by wives, sisters, daughters of the Civil War dead - now its in rememberence for all those who die in battles for America.

Everyone should know the history of our country. I watch Leno and he somethings does this skit where he goes out and asks people on the street to sing the National Anthem - no one know it!! Of all the things an American should learn in schools - tops should be all the verses to our Anthem! You don't have to sing it, but you sure should know it! (I actually even know Oh Canada! because our Buffalo TV station signed off at night with the National Anthem first, followed by Oh, Canada, lol! Another station signed off with the Marines Hymn and the Navy Hymn )

I dont stand for songs and such because my GM used to tell me of her brothers who were rounded up by the nazis and killed for not denouncing the Pope. (she had come to America before WWI). The Germans all stood and shouted and sung at that nazi flag, because it was blindly expected and if you didn't you were suspected of treason. A country where you are told how to feel about your flag is not where any American would live.

Once upon a time there was a class called "civics" in our schools, we learned how gov't works from town to federal levels. We learned our songs, we learned what it meant to be a part of a great nation, That Americans work for a common good..

Now, that is all gone and all it seems our kids are learning are ways in which we are all different, and goals are ME and not WE, and bad language and lies work better than civility and truth. No one learns even the simplest songs and no one learns the Anthem. No one has respect for gov't on any level. Just standing is not good enough because we can turn into a bunch of nazi style robots if we dont know the history and meaning of our symbols. sharet


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