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Geri B 08-21-2015 06:21 AM

iPad vs other?
 
It seems my iPad (second one in 4yrs) may have to be replaced.......I'm thinking maybe another kind would serve the same purpose.....is that possible? Suggestions?

ckcowl 08-21-2015 06:31 AM

I have an android tablet from Verizon that I am very happy with, but when its time to upgrade I'm going to switch to a kindle fire. My brother, daughter and granddaughters all have the kindles, love them & seem to be much better at some things. Since I am an Amazon prime subscriber it makes sense for me to change over. My old boss has had an iPad for a number of years & it seems like she has problems all the time, sometimes going days without being able to access her mail. After watching all her issues for the past 2years, her taking it to the Apple store for help every week or two it would be a last resort & I think I'd just do without. ( she says she likes it though.... Doesn't want something different)

quiltsRfun 08-21-2015 06:34 AM

Just curious, what problems did you have with your iPads?

Geri B 08-21-2015 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by quiltsRfun (Post 7292788)
Just curious, what problems did you have with your iPads?

Yesterday I was on it looking to get directions for an address- locally- from mapquest...when suddenly this message came on saying something about an error...with an http addy, saying the os is in danger......along with an 877# to call to be connected to!a live tech......after trying to shut down/ reopen, only to find that same pop up message, I called the number - answered by someone with a very heavy Indian accent and poor connection...told him my situation......he stated that this could be corrected by him on line for $39.95---- I said no thanks and hung up. So this morning, tried to get on safari thru iPad......same message, but I am here on my iPad.....I don't understand....I will call the apple store, make an appt and see what they say ........the store is about 35 miles away, not convenient and this thing is out of warranty of course!

Tartan 08-21-2015 07:34 AM

Have you rebooted your iPad lately?

Onebyone 08-21-2015 07:35 AM

That is what is called Ransomware. It's a scam but will disable your computer. Google Ransomware Removal. The most important thing is to protect your computer from getting it.

We have several tablets but I like Kindle Fire. DH loves his Komando tablet. Our old Ipad didn't last very long so we didn't buy another. I bought a cheap no name one at Walmart for the grands to use and it is still working great for their games and movies.

ManiacQuilter2 08-21-2015 07:40 AM

I bought an Android pad from Costco for $149.00 and I am happy with what I wanted it for, another way of watching TV. It is a large 10" so it is heavy but I don't take it with me when I am out and about. You have to decided what the qualities you want in a tablet and then go looking for one that will suit your needs.

NJ Quilter 08-21-2015 08:49 AM

I, too, have an android tablet and am very happy with it. I do not have voice capabilities with it so I can only use internet via wifi but I bought it with that knowledge and desire. I did not have a smartphone at the time so got a smaller (8") tablet so that I COULD be out and about with it if needed to access internet while out. Since I now have a smartphone I really don't carry it while out but do still use it at home both free-standing and online. It is a Samsung Galaxy and has full version MS office pre-installed which was also a necessary feature for me when initially shopping.

yngldy 08-21-2015 08:58 AM

Ditto, Samsung.

nvb50 08-21-2015 05:03 PM

Check out the Surface Pro, which is windows based. I like it much better than any of the others I have tried due to the fact it has a USB port that allows to load external programs on by using an external CD reader.

Jennie and Me 08-21-2015 07:18 PM

I have an IPad and do love it...however it doesn't stay charged and takes forever to recharge. Took it to an Apple Store thinking that it needed a new battery. Long story short, they would replace it for $99 (the whole IPad, not the battery) however they didn't have one like it in stock. So I need to call Apple Care and they will send me a new one for the $99 and send me the box to send mine in. Seriously!

janedee 08-21-2015 07:39 PM

I have the Kindle Fire HD - absolutely love it, been using it for 18 months every day and no problems whatsoever, never had or used an IPad so can't compare.

regm 08-22-2015 03:07 AM

I'm starting to have some trouble with my IPad. The mail icon seems to be frozen. am using the Google icon but want to stay with what I am used to. Have an appointment at nearest Apple store on Mon. nite. I don't like change. Don't know what I'll switch to if the need arises.

Geri B 08-22-2015 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by Onebyone (Post 7292844)
That is what is called Ransomware. It's a scam but will disable your computer. Google Ransomware Removal. The most important thing is to protect your computer from getting it.

We have several tablets but I like Kindle Fire. DH loves his Komando tablet. Our old Ipad didn't last very long so we didn't buy another. I bought a cheap no name one at Walmart for the grands to use and it is still working great for their games and movies.

I can't access the net from iPad because of this whatever ....so I can't get to google about ransom ware......I will have to visit the dreaded apple store.....they will probably try and sell me another one, but I won't go that route again. I will look into the fire, I think.......I use it for just email, here, any info, tutes, a very few online purchases ...no games....have kindle for reading........I don't know......

quiltmaker52 08-22-2015 06:55 AM

My my husband and I have Samsung. His is 10", mine is 8". We each have the Nook, Kindle, and Overdrive apps on them for reading. Love the Samsungs! Have had them for about 4 years. They cost less than Ipads, and all my friends with Ipads have had problems.

Stitchnripper 08-22-2015 07:09 AM

My iPad is going on 2 years old. I haven't had any problems with it. I really like it because of the apps available and I have an iPhone and iMac and they all work together and in the same way. I also have a Kindle app, Overdrive, and would get the Nook app if I wanted it. I know the iPads come with a free protection program for year one with free exchange. I bought the second year protection program for $99. We must have an odd Apple store here because on the few occasions I have needed help, they help me and don't try to upsell.

dsews2 08-22-2015 08:36 AM

Right now i have a 20'' imac desktop but in the near future, i hope to buy an ipad or something so i can carry it around.....i have a friend who is my daughters g/f husband and is a computer tech. He fixes my mac when ever i have problems with no charge. He fixes it while we are connected. They have the same imac i have plus other things.....they know more about computers then i do.....there does seem to be a problem lately that it's not real easy getting him on the phone....they are in their early 40's so are active with a family....i also belong to a mac users group so can get some help there.

Prism99 08-22-2015 10:26 AM

My daughter and I both have iPad Airs. She loves hers and never has a problem with it. Mine is great except that Safari almost always has to reload internet pages; makes it slower to cruise the net than I would like. My dd uses hers differently than I do. She is often on Facebook and Youtube for long periods of time. I am often trying to read forums and news channels on mine. We have the same model of iPad but purchased several months apart.

Recently I bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab S for a friend. We got him the 10" screen to make it easy to watch movies (plus I just like a larger screen). It also comes in a 8.5" size that is very portable if you like to take a tablet with you. I must say the screen display on the Tab S is fabulous, plus it has a micro SD slot so you can store an incredible amount of photos and videos on it. (The iPad, in contrast, does not have a micro SD slot. Once you run out of memory on the iPad it's a good idea to buy Cloud storage for your extras.)

The big advantage of iPad for us was that it was an easy introduction to the world of tablets. It's just easier to get started and operational than android. Now that we have some experience, android is becoming more attractive -- especially the Samsung products. The Tab S would be the one to compare to the current iPad Air II. If you Google, you can find several comparisons of the two products. Not everyone needs top-of-the-line in these two brands, though.

My best guess is that either of these will last someone a good 10 years before needing replacement (primarily due to changes in the operating system; once an OS becomes too old, many of the newer apps won't work well with it).

A decision really depends on how you want to use the tablet. I see a lot of positive comments about the Kindle Fire, but that may be due to how it is used. I have read quite a few comments online that complain about how it does (or does not do well) certain things. Haven't paid attention, but I think it has to do with how it connects to the internet. It's great for streaming movies, etc. but may not be as good for doing what I spend most of my time on -- reading forums and Googling for information online.

madamekelly 08-22-2015 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by Geri B (Post 7292803)
Yesterday I was on it looking to get directions for an address- locally- from mapquest...when suddenly this message came on saying something about an error...with an http addy, saying the os is in danger......along with an 877# to call to be connected to!a live tech......after trying to shut down/ reopen, only to find that same pop up message, I called the number - answered by someone with a very heavy Indian accent and poor connection...told him my situation......he stated that this could be corrected by him on line for $39.95---- I said no thanks and hung up. So this morning, tried to get on safari thru iPad......same message, but I am here on my iPad.....I don't understand....I will call the apple store, make an appt and see what they say ........the store is about 35 miles away, not convenient and this thing is out of warranty of course!

Apple will never send you a message like that. You are being told to contact someone who is trying to commit a crime. NEVER click a link in an email, or a blink or not blinking banner ad. Doing so is what is wrong with the iPads. I am on my second iPad, after four years of use with the first one, but only because I dropped the first one. The one I have now is a reconditioned one from Apple. (NEVER buy a reconditioned IPad from any other source) no one can remotely "fix" an iPad . If you are on tech support, with Apple by phone or online, they will sometimes ask to access your computer to diagnose or see a problem, but never to "fix" anything. Apple products are meant to be secure. Only your actions can change that. If your iPad is acting odd, try shutting it completely off, wait 30-60 seconds and turn back on. If this does not fix whatever is going on, call tech support yourself, or take it in. Also, I have never heard a "foreign voice" on Apple tech support. Accents yes, but not obvious ESL folks.

{ Funny story for you. I am so not tech savvy, so that when I got my first iPad, I read what I understood of the instructions, managed to get it up and working, and was really enjoying being able to use it so easily. It was so much fun to be able to sit or ride anywhere and use it. It was wonderful, for about two weeks. Then I noticed that it was acting strange, typing weird, having trouble getting online, while online things would shift, blink, and just drive me crazy. I'm thinking " that was way too much money to spend on a tool that only works right for a couple weeks!" So, in desperation I called tech support. (I hate calling tech support, makes me feel stupid.) a very nice young lady answered, asked what she could help me with. I explained what was going on. She said to turn it off then back on. I "turned it off" said OK, it is off. She said it is not supposed to turn off that quick.....for the whole time I had used it, I had been putting it to sleep, not actually turning it off! They only reset when you turn them completely off! I felt so stupid. She and I had a good laugh at my silly mistake, and I now turn it off when I am done with it......lol!}

Stitchnripper 08-22-2015 12:54 PM

madamekelly - I agree with your post. I'm very happy with my three Apple products and have always gotten someone I can understand on the few occasions I have called the support line. I like to ask them where they are from and when they say Cupertino I do a little happy dance. Maybe they aren't really in Cupertino, but, I like to think they are. One of the "geniuses" in the Apple Store when we were buying something told us they refer to Cupertino as "the Mother ship". Funny.

parrynj 08-23-2015 05:03 AM

I've had my IPad for two years now with no problems. I love it!

coopah 08-23-2015 05:25 AM

On our third iPad, not because of the product, but mt klutziness. Madame Kelly is correct about the security of Apple products. I used to be a staunch Microsoft user. No more. Turn the iPad off completely at night and recharge it. No problems. Easy peasy.

KalamaQuilts 08-23-2015 06:35 AM

Have the ransomware removed and enjoy your iPad. You don't replace your car when when the glove box is full or your house when the bathtub gets a ring in it.

madamekelly 08-23-2015 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Jennie and Me (Post 7293403)
I have an IPad and do love it...however it doesn't stay charged and takes forever to recharge. Took it to an Apple Store thinking that it needed a new battery. Long story short, they would replace it for $99 (the whole IPad, not the battery) however they didn't have one like it in stock. So I need to call Apple Care and they will send me a new one for the $99 and send me the box to send mine in. Seriously!

If your iPad is recharging very slowly, I would assume that a new charging cord would be a cheap easy fix. The charging cords can have broken wires inside due to wear and tear that you can't see. Be very gentle with your cord, try to avoid crimping it in any way. The newer cords look cool, but durability is a missing factor to them. I bought a replacement at Walgreens of all places. Works just great. In fact, I bought an extra one just because they are phasing out the cord for my iPad 2. Normally $8, I found them on sale for $4.95! Score!

madamekelly 08-23-2015 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Geri B (Post 7293633)
I can't access the net from iPad because of this whatever ....so I can't get to google about ransom ware......I will have to visit the dreaded apple store.....they will probably try and sell me another one, but I won't go that route again. I will look into the fire, I think.......I use it for just email, here, any info, tutes, a very few online purchases ...no games....have kindle for reading........I don't know......


As as horrible as this idea sounds, rather than buy another tablet, try going into "settings", then "general", go all the way to the bottom on the right side, then push reset, you will follow prompts to reset. You will loose your bookmarks, and apps, but it is still easier than buying and learning a new product. After the reset, you can go to the App Store and reload any apps you have paid for, and any you may have gotten free. Look under "purchased". If you are like me and try free apps (not usually sample of apps) through the "Apps Gone Free" app, you may have to hunt for the ones you had, but still easier than learning a new machine. Best part, FREE! Good luck dear, and no more clicking on things that "just appear". Hope this improves your experience and avoid the dreaded "Mac Store". Lol!

{for the record, when I got my replacement, I just went to the App Store, reloaded what I had paid for or had free, and off we go, back in business! Yippee!}

madamekelly 08-23-2015 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by KalamaQuilts (Post 7294773)
Have the ransomware removed and enjoy your iPad. You don't replace your car when when the glove box is full or your house when the bathtub gets a ring in it.

Do it yourself, see my instructions above. No chance of doing it wrong yourself, and free! {Translation-more money for fabric!}

madamekelly 08-23-2015 08:31 AM

Before I got my iPad, I did buy a Sony E-reader. It was very easy to learn, but all I could do on it was read books. It did weigh more than most books, could not be read in sunshine, and had the added hazard of dirt, dust, and debris causing damage. I decided I preferred the durability of real books, so passed it on. DH decided on a android tablet. His screen is not compatible with my eyes for some reason and looking at the screen gives me a headache, because of the lines crossing the screen, and he ignores his android and uses mine instead, so we are getting him a reconditioned Ipad2. We are both too old and clumsy to pay for "brand new pretty" and reconditioned machines done by Apple work great. (More money for sewing!)

IBQUILTIN 08-23-2015 09:56 AM

I have a Kindle fire and it is just perfect for me when I am in the sewing room. I put it on a Cookbook stand, and can watch the videos from Utube with it in easy reach for stop and go. Never have had a problem

nannyrick 08-23-2015 10:31 AM

I have the Kindle Fire 8.9 and absolutely love it. I have had it almost
two years and highly recommend it. It does everything I want it to do.

callen 08-23-2015 01:32 PM

I started with a Samsung Galaxy tablet & had no problems. All facebook info that came through on my laptop automatically came to my Samsung UNTIL I bought my iPad then I had problems. Thanks to a terrific lady from thei Tech Dept., we got it sorted out after an hour on the phone. After trying the 2 tablets, the iPad is good but not worth the extra cost compared to Samsung Galaxy. The only reason I changed in the first place was because my granddaughter wanted a tablet so I gave her my Samsung & bought myself an iPad (mostly because of all the hype around them). I sometimes with I had kept my Samsung. IMHO.

almond 08-23-2015 04:01 PM

I started out with a Samsung tablet and hated it. After two years I decided I wanted something user friendly. I went to my cell phone provider (US Cellular) and bought an Ipad from them. I love it. For the main reason, anytime I have a problem, I go to US cellular and they are very willing to help correct the problem.

Since we are talking about computers, Has anyone downloaded windows 10 for free. I did upgrading from windows 7. My computer is so much faster now and easy to learn!

Janette 08-24-2015 07:05 AM

I've been using Apple products since 1985 and have generally been happy with them. Very few problems. I don't have an iPad but do have an iMac, a Macbook Air and a Macbook. What I also have is Applecare. Apple has the best rated service system. Have a problem? Just contact them. They will call you immediately, either by phone or online and spend whatever time necessary to fix the problem. Applecare, I believe, also covers cost of replacement parts.

nstitches4u 08-25-2015 06:37 PM

There are a lot of good tablets. I have had iPads for several years. Upgraded twice to newer versions. The reason I like iPad is that it "talks" to my iPhone. When I put something on my calendar on either device it automatically goes to the other device and I can send calendar data to my husband's iPad. It is good for keeping our scheduled appointments, meetings, etc. straight. Same with pictures, contacts, notes, etc. Also, the Apple system is not suseptible to viruses like the windows systems are. At leat not yet . . I'm sure somebody will learn to hack the system eventually, but so far, they haven't been able to do it.


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