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JudyBsquared 09-13-2016 07:42 AM

Machine Embroidery Problem
 
I'm trying to do some embroidery on placemats. When I do the name BOB with the satin stitch it won't lay flat, the fabric is "puckery." Will it be better if I loosen the tension or is that what satin stitch does on letters?

Quilty-Louise 09-13-2016 07:45 AM

What kind of stabilizer are you using? and how many layers?
Are you using a water soluble topping?

I found that when I get a lot of puckering it is usually because
of the stabilizer.

Tartan 09-13-2016 08:07 AM

​Use a good stabilizer, use fine embroidery thread and loosen the tension a smidge.

JudyBsquared 09-13-2016 09:42 AM

Water soluble topping?? I just grabbed some stabilizer to practice. It's probably medium weight and it's iron-on but I didn't iron it. What do you call a good stabilizer? What I used is some that I bought by the yard at Joann. I am using embroidery thread. Does the needle make a difference? I'm using an 11 but wonder if I should put in a new one. And the top thread is showing pretty solid on the back. Can't figure out why.

Thanks for helping. Also, will I have trouble trying to embroider on denim?

sept97 09-14-2016 02:49 AM

try cut away stabilizer it's heavier and if you're doing it on regular fabric you don't need water soluable stabilizer. That's only for porous fabrics

89a677 09-14-2016 03:49 AM

Try 2 layers of stabilzee

romanojg 09-14-2016 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by 89a677 (Post 7652356)
Try 2 layers of stabilzee

I agree and either water soluable topping or water soluable stabilzer, it lays on top of the fabric and keeps the thread from sinking into the fabric. This is especially true for towels, blankets, etc but I also have used it for other designs, especially monagrams. If you can't see thru the fabric you can use either cut away or tear away on the bottom, I've had luck with the stabilzers from JoAnn's. Look at embroiderylibrary.com, they have lots of tutorials on stabilizers, fabrics, needles, etc. it'll help

MaggieLou 09-14-2016 06:46 AM

If your top thread is mostly showing on the bottom it's a tension problem. Try loosing the top tension.

Cactus Stitchin 09-14-2016 08:08 AM

I also agree it is the stabilizer and noticed that you do not mention the total stitch count. (Floriani stabilizers have a sheet of paper inside the roll that give the stitch count - I don't know about other brands.) Each stabilizer has a "max" number of stitches it can hold before you need to float another piece underneath. If you are reaching the total stitch count for the stabilizer you are using, put another good sized piece of tear-off stabilizer under the design when you reach that point and see if it helps. Just another idea to try.

redstilettos 09-14-2016 08:46 AM

if you are doing a heavier satin stitch on thin or very loosely woven cotton, it will pucker. Try a heavier stabilizer, and perhaps a cutaway one not the rip-away kind.

Good luck!

Shorebird 09-14-2016 09:42 AM

You need to better stabilize the fabric...........I use a fusible very light weight cotton called "PRESTO" and fuse on the back of the fabric I am embroidering..............I then use a high quality stabilizer (read that FLORIANI) and I hoop both stabilizer and fabric. I use a heavy weight tear away or a medium cut away, depending on the project. Stabilizer that is too light for the dense satin stitches will cause your design to pucker.

onemoe 09-14-2016 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by JudyBsquared (Post 7651932)
Water soluble topping?? I just grabbed some stabilizer to practice. It's probably medium weight and it's iron-on but I didn't iron it. What do you call a good stabilizer? What I used is some that I bought by the yard at Joann. I am using embroidery thread. Does the needle make a difference? I'm using an 11 but wonder if I should put in a new one. And the top thread is showing pretty solid on the back. Can't figure out why.

Thanks for helping. Also, will I have trouble trying to embroider on denim?

Go to Embroidery Library for all sorts of help.

Suz 09-15-2016 05:50 PM

I am wondering if a hoop is necessary to hold everything tightly. Loading the project the opposite of the usual setup allowing the flat surface be next to the bed of the sewing machine may help. Just a thought.

Cari-in-Oly 09-20-2016 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Shorebird (Post 7652625)
You need to better stabilize the fabric...........I use a fusible very light weight cotton called "PRESTO" and fuse on the back of the fabric I am embroidering..............I then use a high quality stabilizer (read that FLORIANI) and I hoop both stabilizer and fabric. I use a heavy weight tear away or a medium cut away, depending on the project. Stabilizer that is too light for the dense satin stitches will cause your design to pucker.

Floriani, Brother, Sulky and the other big names buy generic stabilizer, repackage it in small amounts and sell it for big $$. I buy my stabilizers by the roll from Allstitch.net, it's the exact same things as the packaged stuff but I get 3 times as much for the money I spend over buying it pre packaged. Wet n Gone and Aquamesh are two examples. Both of these products are just Vilene wash away. For what you pay for a small package of it Allstitch sells a 30yd roll. Floriani thread is also re packed thread from one of the companies that makes a no name thread. So don't let the big names fool you.

Cari

Cari-in-Oly 09-20-2016 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by JudyBsquared (Post 7651849)
I'm trying to do some embroidery on placemats. When I do the name BOB with the satin stitch it won't lay flat, the fabric is "puckery." Will it be better if I loosen the tension or is that what satin stitch does on letters?

You say in another post that the back of your project shows mostly top thread so your tension is already a little loose. With a satin stitch it should show 1/3 top thread, 1/3 bottom thread, 1/3 top thread on the back, similar to a proper satin stitch in regular sewing. Are you using a programmed font in a sewing machine or an embroidery machine? You need to properly hoop and stabilize your fabric with either one. Too loose or too tight in the hoop will both cause puckers.

Cari


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