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Ramona Byrd 03-19-2011 03:17 AM

In my own family we have some very, very severe allergies to different foods, and to insect stings. We've had to educate ourselves on what to eat and what not to, but the FDA has not forced companies to accurately label foods and drinks, cosmetics and such sold to us. I will admit that this one insect may not be as serious as the many thousands of chemicals now in our
food chain, but it is one of the most obvious, which is why it is used, for the long lasting red color. It's even in a "health" drink I saw a lady drinking today.

Do some checking on the Internet for yourself!!

quilticing 03-19-2011 03:21 AM

What are you talking about?

Ramona Byrd 03-19-2011 03:30 AM

It's an insect that is ground up and put into food for the coloring.
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Are insects used to make food coloring? - The Boston Globe
Mar 6, 2006 ... Q: A few weeks ago at a party the subject came up about food coloring. I told the guests about the red bugs that are raised to make #40 red.
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patricej 03-19-2011 03:56 AM

this information is at least 4 years old. how accurate is it now?

hobo2000 03-19-2011 04:49 AM

Hasn't changed it's still the same. No new chemical has been found food safe for true red.

DesiG 03-19-2011 05:07 AM

Cochineal has been used for centuries (literally) for foods and for dyeing textiles by many cultures. It is still used today by hand spinners to dye wool. This is an animal/insect product and the stuff that I use is natural. While it is important for individuals to monitor their foods for allergy and safety, using an insect product for food coloring actually sounds better to me than some of the frankenstein stuff that modern chemists add to the food chain.
Some other examples of (gross) dye additives include snail slime (roman imperial purple or tyrean red, boiled walnut shells, roots, berries, lichens, seaweeds etc. Natural dyestuffs and colorants can sound pretty nasty- and calling a colorant "insect parts" is specifically worded to play to the yuck factor found among most Americans. Many cultures eat things that I would never consider, insects among them. But.... my favorite 'bug' is a water one- shrimp! Go figure :-)

amandasgramma 03-19-2011 05:59 AM

I have issues with MSG and Aspertame. The law states that the manufactures have to list the foods or "things" they put in their product, but they don't have to list the foods or things in the products that they put in their products. Example: spaghetti sauce will say it has "tomato sauce". If you look at the containers of sauce in the store you'll see some have "broth and tomatoes" and others will have "water and tomatoes". The broth more than likely is bouillon....which contains MSG. But they don't have to list MSG....in fact, they can say their product does not have MSG!!! I even found MSG in my hair conditioner!!!!! The coconut scented kind has MSG -- as a preservative. Frustrating!!!

CarrieAnne 03-19-2011 06:55 AM

Sounds so gross!

Ramona Byrd 03-19-2011 08:49 AM

While it is important for individuals to monitor their foods for allergy and safety, using an insect product for food coloring actually sounds better to me than some of the frankenstein stuff that modern chemists add to the food chain.
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I'll agree with this. Insects don't bother me that much, unless they have been sprayed. Doesn't seem like this is the case here.
Aspartame for one is a dangerous thing, so now they are going to call it "Amino Sweet" for the folks who won't be looking for this till they learn better. High Fructose Corn Syrup is changing its name to simply "Corn Syrup". Doesn't that sound nutritious? Money is king, so we have to monitor our own food intake. Me..I strongly suspect there's something else in diet sodas that isn't on the label and is highly addictive. I can stop drinking it, get my caffeine in tea and coffee, yet still get headaches and want my diet sodas. I'm working on lowering my intake, slowly...very slowly. Also losing weight just as slowly!!!! That sorta surprised me. I think in the mean while I'll change to Sucrose and sodas that have it in them, going today to search them out. I'm told by a chemist I know that Sucrose "mostly" is excreted from the body, unlike Aspartame. I'm going to not think of that "mostly" bit till I've tamed my craving for soda.

Sure would like to find one that has plain old Stevia in it. I heard some soda companies are trying to come up with a good tasting soda with Stevia.

(Wanna gain weight? Drink Diet Sodas!!)

Ramona Byrd 03-19-2011 08:56 AM

[quote=amandasgramma]I have issues with MSG and Aspertame. The law states that the manufactures have to list the foods or "things" they put in their product, but they don't have to list the foods or things in the products that they put in their products.
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Check this out on the Internet. I was stunned at the list that showed up after just a few moment's search. I now eat very few things that come prepared, things taste better made from scratch. I do eat out once or twice a month, some restaurants have recipes that I don't. I can find a lot of them on "Top Secret Recipes" on the internet, but the smaller ones seem to use real foods. Unfortunately, most of them use massive doses of salt, which makes my ankles and legs swell up, so I don't eat out often.

icon17 03-19-2011 08:58 AM

? are you saying they use Ladybug wings?

Originally Posted by Ramona Byrd
It's an insect that is ground up and put into food for the coloring.
-----------------------------------------------
Are insects used to make food coloring? - The Boston Globe
Mar 6, 2006 ... Q: A few weeks ago at a party the subject came up about food coloring. I told the guests about the red bugs that are raised to make #40 red.
www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2006/03/... - Similar
snopes.com: Food Color Made From Bugs
Feb 20, 2007 ... Food colorant made of ground bugs? ... The desiccated insects would then be ground to a fine ... Color Additives and Cosmetics ...
www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/bugjuice.asp - Similar
Answers.com - Was red food coloring made from beetles' wings
Was red food colori ng made from beetles' wings? What is red artificial food coloring made of? Is red food color made from insect wings? ...
wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_red_food_coloring_made_from_be... - Similar
Cochineal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The insect produces carminic acid that deters predation by other insects. ... Carmine is today primarily used as a food colouring and for cosmetics. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochineal - Similar
Carmine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Food industries were aggressively opposed to the idea of writing "insect ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine - 11 hours ago - Similar
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Ramona Byrd 03-19-2011 09:08 AM

Talking about a very permanent red color, I wish I could find some old Coty 24 lipstick that I used to get 20 or more years ago. Now that did last and last. In fact, it got so that a lot of hospitals said not to use any lip stick before operations, and one nurse I knew said she mentioned Coty 24 to the patients days before the operations. They can know at a glance you're low on O2 just by looking at lips and fingernails, which means no nail polish either. I'd even accept lipstick with Cochineal in it!!!! In fact, maybe it was made from insects in the first place!!

OHSue 03-19-2011 09:18 AM

Although cochineal may be used as a food colorant, I am surprised that it would be because as a product for dyers it is very, very expensive. I understand that the price has recently gone up again because there was something that has drastically reduced the cochineal population. So I suspect that if not already, in the very near future cochineal may not be used as much as it is at present.

You should also note that on food lableling they are not required to list an ingredient that is less than some minute amount, not sure what it is, so likely we are all taking in a few bugs, etc. I try not to dwell on it, if it really mattered to me I would be growing all my own veg and killing my own animals..... eww, I can barely carve up a chicken.

DesiG 03-19-2011 02:23 PM

Eeww is right about the chicken! we get real free range chicken from one of the farmers markets here in Rochester and it is sold whole... since I rarely cook a whole bird for 2 people I have to 'part it out' myself. We eat something else the day I have to do that :-)

quilter1943 03-19-2011 03:22 PM

I quit eating strawberry yogurt because of this. Isn't it DISGUSTING?

Emma S 03-20-2011 09:05 AM

I worked with a woman who experienced a serious allergic reaction to this dye. Her face swelled up and she experience a swelling in her throat that cut off her breathing. It resulted in an emergency room visit and a overnight stay at a hospital. All this for one piece of a Good & Plenty.

Patricia Ann 03-20-2011 08:01 PM

How can you gain weight by drink diet soda

Momsmurf 03-20-2011 09:15 PM

I've read about that.......on the other hand, can't even drink water without wondering ....there are reserviors around here left open...and the city is being forced to cover it (of course at the tune of a potential 85% increase in rates for 5 years!) {Want to be those increased never come down?}

Tiquela anyone? Kills worms. :lol:

Annaquilts 03-20-2011 09:21 PM

I hear you. Now they have mayonaise with lemon juice concentrate. Sounds innocent but lemon juice concentrate often has sulfites. I agree on the MSG. It is hidden in just about anything processed.



Originally Posted by amandasgramma
I have issues with MSG and Aspertame. The law states that the manufactures have to list the foods or "things" they put in their product, but they don't have to list the foods or things in the products that they put in their products. Example: spaghetti sauce will say it has "tomato sauce". If you look at the containers of sauce in the store you'll see some have "broth and tomatoes" and others will have "water and tomatoes". The broth more than likely is bouillon....which contains MSG. But they don't have to list MSG....in fact, they can say their product does not have MSG!!! I even found MSG in my hair conditioner!!!!! The coconut scented kind has MSG -- as a preservative. Frustrating!!!


Painiacs 03-20-2011 09:29 PM

The pretty shimmery lipstick and nail polish is fish scales! SoMe perfume- anal glands of cats! Gross stuff everywhere!!

Ramona Byrd 03-20-2011 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by Patricia Ann
How can you gain weight by drink diet soda?

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Ramona Byrd 03-20-2011 09:47 PM

Drink water, tea or lemon aid. Lots and lots of teas out there.

I remember as a child way back in the hills, my Grandma would make some sugary drink for the my plowing up some land for her,
and send me out with some cold Mason jars full of drink made from vinegar. No lemons grew back there and were rarely bought.
Vinegar and lemon juice are just about the same type of sharp acidity, with water and sugar made a refreshing drink in the high humidity and heat.

Ramona Byrd 03-20-2011 09:47 PM

Drink water, tea or lemon aid. Lots and lots of teas out there.

I remember as a child way back in the hills, my Grandma would make some sugary drink for the my plowing up some land for her,
and send me out with some cold Mason jars full of drink made from vinegar. No lemons grew back there and were rarely bought.
Vinegar and lemon juice are just about the same type of sharp acidity, with water and sugar made a refreshing drink in the high humidity and heat.

madamekelly 03-20-2011 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by Ramona Byrd
While it is important for individuals to monitor their foods for allergy and safety, using an insect product for food coloring actually sounds better to me than some of the frankenstein stuff that modern chemists add to the food chain.
--------------------------------------------
I'll agree with this. Insects don't bother me that much, unless they have been sprayed. Doesn't seem like this is the case here.
Aspartame for one is a dangerous thing, so now they are going to call it "Amino Sweet" for the folks who won't be looking for this till they learn better. High Fructose Corn Syrup is changing its name to simply "Corn Syrup". Doesn't that sound nutritious? Money is king, so we have to monitor our own food intake. Me..I strongly suspect there's something else in diet sodas that isn't on the label and is highly addictive. I can stop drinking it, get my caffeine in tea and coffee, yet still get headaches and want my diet sodas. I'm working on lowering my intake, slowly...very slowly. Also losing weight just as slowly!!!! That sorta surprised me. I think in the mean while I'll change to Sucrose and sodas that have it in them, going today to search them out. I'm told by a chemist I know that Sucrose "mostly" is excreted from the body, unlike Aspartame. I'm going to not think of that "mostly" bit till I've tamed my craving for soda.

Sure would like to find one that has plain old Stevia in it. I heard some soda companies are trying to come up with a good tasting soda with Stevia.

(Wanna gain weight? Drink Diet Sodas!!)

Aspartame has been proven to CAUSE carbohydrate cravings! It has also been linked to brain problems.

nycquilter 03-21-2011 09:50 AM

I gave up diet soda almost three years ago for the reasons being pointed out here. Though I didn't lose weight, I also did not gain any. And, I feel much better, which is the ultimate reason. I no longer have any cravings either. I now drink teas that I make from fresh herbs, often herbs I've grown or gathered myself. I do not miss the soda!

Ramona Byrd 10-29-2011 05:40 PM

LET ME TRY THIS ONE MORE TIME

I remember as a child way back in the hills, my Grandma would make some sugary drink for MY UNCLES WHO WERE plowing up some GARDEN land for her,

and send me out with some cold Mason jars full of drink made from vinegar. No lemons grew back there and were rarely bought.
Vinegar and lemon juice are just about the same type of sharp acidity, with water and sugar made a refreshing drink in the high humidity and heat.[/quote]

Grannymom 10-29-2011 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Ramona Byrd
LET ME TRY THIS ONE MORE TIME

I remember as a child way back in the hills, my Grandma would make some sugary drink for MY UNCLES WHO WERE plowing up some GARDEN land for her,

and send me out with some cold Mason jars full of drink made from vinegar. No lemons grew back there and were rarely bought.
Vinegar and lemon juice are just about the same type of sharp acidity, with water and sugar made a refreshing drink in the high humidity and heat.

[/quote]

How many times have you heard somebody say drink pickle juice for muscle cramps? Probably the main ingredient to do any good was the vinegar!
8-) :lol:


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