War Horse Movie
Has any one seen the move War Horse. This movie really shook me up. Way back when there was the war with Germany. If you ever see this movie, you will never want another war. Horses pulling big guns and the brutal things done to these animals when they could not perform any more. Men shot if they didn't get out on the front lines. Human life was nothing to these leaders, as humans were also expendable. I was awake all night with the memorys of this movie.
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I think the whole purpose of the movie was to show the horrors of past wars. NO, it was not a pretty war, put it showed what huge hearts these horses had to give their human handlers what they were asked to do. Think of all the obstacles this horse went through. Plow horse, calvary horse, pulling ambulances, pulling guns. It wasn't about how horrible it was, it was about what people and horses can overcome. Yes, I was horrified when the horse got caught in the barbed wire, but was heartened by how the two sides came together to help save the horse.
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I wonder how many horses were hurt making the film.
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that is one I can't even watch the previews on t.v. about. just can't. I love horses so much that any scenes with them showing the possibility of them being hurt tends to upset me a lot. so NO, i won't be seeing it.
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Originally Posted by mayday
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I wonder how many horses were hurt making the film.
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War is not pretty, no matter if you're animal or human. Unfortunately, it's a fact of life...
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It is hard to enjoy all the freedoms that have been defended by our valiant warriors but not be able to watch a make-believe movie about that defense.
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Someone said, "War is hell" and I totally agree.
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Originally Posted by Sandra in Minnesota
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Someone said, "War is hell" and I totally agree.
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I read the book and did like it. That said did you know that the war dogs of Viet Nam were either left to go on their own or were shot instead of bringing them back to the states after serving to protect our forces from mines and booby traps? After the Civil war was over most of the horses no longer needed were trapped into canyons and shot to death! Yes man is a selfish species when it comes to saving those inocents that risked their lives to save the humans that used and abused them.
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Originally Posted by Stitchnripper
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I don't want to see the movie because even if those movie horses weren't injured, there were real horses that were and that is just an image I don't want in my head.
I'm sitting here and on the love seat opposite me are mother and daughter dogs, snoozing butt to butt like book ends. This is what I like to watch. Oops!, dad rustled a chip ag in the other room and sleeoing dogs vacated faster than you can say "chip bag"!! |
I thought it was an excellent movie. War is not pretty. Actually, I had misgivings about seeing it because I am an animal lover (I even cry watching Lassie). But, when the movie was over...I was very glad I had gone to see it.
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Originally Posted by Pam B
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I thought it was an excellent movie. War is not pretty. Actually, I had misgivings about seeing it because I am an animal lover (I even cry watching Lassie). But, when the movie was over...I was very glad I had gone to see it.
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If politicians and rulers of countries were in the front lines there would be no wars!
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Originally Posted by Moonglow
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If politicians and rulers of countries were in the front lines there would be no wars!
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Although exceptions don't make the rule, my DH is making a civil war quilt that commemorates a Civil War Dog, "Sally." There's also a monument for her in PA.
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If there were no professional soldiers there would be no wars.
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Do you think the draft can not be reinstated? I think that if there were no evil there would be no wars.
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I was also hesitant to see the movie, and a couple of scenes shocked my 'ignorance' of war. It is my understanding that 14 different horses were used to make the film, none of them injured in any way. It's not just Germany that can be evil, look what we did to the Indians. The movie was great, I'm glad I went to see it.
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I saw the movie. It was a terrible war with a lot of lives lost. As for the horses they were expendable. Not my way of thinking. Wish I could afford to have more thatn I already do. In WW2, dogs was the expendale commondity. Many where left or shot when no longer needed and they didn't want to bring them all back home
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Originally Posted by mayday
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I wonder how many horses were hurt making the film.
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Millions of horses died during WWI and were slaughtered for food after the armistice. The War marked the end of "horse power" for the developed nations as mechanization advanced. Some men volunteer--some men are drafted but the animals wereallconscripts.
Our ancestors came to America for religious and economic freedom, yes, but we forget that many came to escape the unending wars of Europe in which they were unwilling participants or innocent victims. During our Revolutionary War, peasants from Hess were forced into uniform by their overlord and then sent as mercenaries to America for no reason than to line his pockets. The official line about the executed dogs was that they were considered too dangerous to be returned to civilian homes. A tragedy, but they were trained to kill. |
I haven't seen the movie yet but will. I hate war movies however... I strongly believe we need to be reminded of the horrors that have happened in our past so we don't keep repeating them. People don't like to see pictures of the dogs harmed in fighting either. Too graphic. I say show it till everyone says its HAS to stop. Most horrific things that people do to animals and to other humans is based on greed.
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I saw the play and the movie. Cried through both, despite the outcome.
The horrors of war continue to this moment. The BEST ever "allegory" that I saw was an original Star Trek episode, where war was "sanitized" by giving everyone a number and when your number was called, you left what you were doing and just "disappeared" (were killed humanely) That way, there was no injury, no property destruction. In some ways this is the best way to "go" but ........ |
Originally Posted by pasovasz
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I saw the play and the movie. Cried through both, despite the outcome.
The horrors of war continue to this moment. The BEST ever "allegory" that I saw was an original Star Trek episode, where war was "sanitized" by giving everyone a number and when your number was called, you left what you were doing and just "disappeared" (were killed humanely) That way, there was no injury, no property destruction. In some ways this is the best way to "go" but ........ |
Originally Posted by Greenheron
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Millions of horses died during WWI and were slaughtered for food after the armistice. The War marked the end of "horse power" for the developed nations as mechanization advanced. Some men volunteer--some men are drafted but the animals wereallconscripts.
Our ancestors came to America for religious and economic freedom, yes, but we forget that many came to escape the unending wars of Europe in which they were unwilling participants or innocent victims. During our Revolutionary War, peasants from Hess were forced into uniform by their overlord and then sent as mercenaries to America for no reason than to line his pockets. The official line about the executed dogs was that they were considered too dangerous to be returned to civilian homes. A tragedy, but they were trained to kill. MAN is the worst animal out there!! |
Not every military trained dog is trained to kill. We hear lots of stories now about dogs who are shipped home to retire as pets.
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My brother adopted a beautiful, military-trained German Shepherd dog, who for some minor fault was washed out of the service before active duty. He knew and responded correctly to dozens of commands and our whole family loved him. The military line was those dogs who had seen combat service were too dangerous to bring home. I do not agree with the military line--it was a tragedy. Protection dogs are trained to pursue and apprehend and still function in a home situation. The country barely provides for human veterans suffering in mind, body and spirit so it's no surprise that canine veterans were written off. Our extended family includes three GSDs, two mutts, a Doberman, a Rotweiller, a Tibetan spaniel, a JRT, and two combat veteran humans.
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Nativetexan: I am with you. It is best I do not see this movie either.
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My husband was in World war 2 and when he came home he never talked about it.Two days before he died 65 years later he said to me"I have saw things no human person should ever have to see"" I knew he was thinking of his war years.Handquilter
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