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Anna.425 10-13-2011 10:26 PM

I love cats, I am a foster mom for kittens and a life long cat owner (and at this point that is A LOT of cats). Never, NEVER have I ever had cat odors in my home......until now.

DD came home from college with a cat, yes we agreed to her bringing it home, it was not a surprise...exactly. She has a young, male, neutered cat (I almost always own female cats) and we have two 16 year old cats, one male and one female. The young cat, Mishka, is terrorizing the female cat, Weebles. He has driven her away from the food and the cat pan. At the advice of our vet we set up several food and potty stations and it has not helped. As a matter of fact Mishka took over the one cat pan that was upstairs (none of the other cats even use pans anymore, they only go outside). Mishka is an indoor cat and is so picky that he will stop using the pan and pee next to it if it isn't scooped everyday and DD has not done so. We eliminated the upstairs pan and now only have the downstairs pan and now Mishka is peeing upstairs. He is a smart cat and knows that there is a pan downstairs. I have tried spiked mats to deter him and don't ask me how, he has peed on them.

I'm mad as H@ll and I'm not going to take it any more. I have purchased scat mats so if Mishka steps on them he will receive a very, very mild shock. I hate doing that but I don't know what else to do. Any suggestions?

QuiltnCowgirl 10-13-2011 10:32 PM

Have your vet check Mishka for a UTI or other infections. Many times this can cause a behavioral change that manifests in litterbox problems. One of my cats had dental problems & once we treated the infections in his mouth, he went back to using his litterbox like nothing had happened.

Oh - & clean any areas he has peed or defecated on with an enzyme product like Nature's Miracle. It will get rid of his scent entirely & help with him not returning to that spot.

Jan in VA 10-13-2011 10:35 PM

Is there a Cesar Millan for cats?!
That would drive me clean out of my mind!!

Jan in VA

dogpursemaker 10-13-2011 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by Jan in VA
Is there a Cesar Millan for cats?!
That would drive me clean out of my mind!!

Jan in VA

There is! Sort of...there's a show on Animal Planet called My Cat from Hell, or something similar. He's not what I expected. Different methods than Cesar, but working with different animals. His methods seem to work. He has worked with some PSYCHO cats! :twisted: Amazing what the owners put up with.

crafty_linda_b 10-13-2011 11:44 PM

Anna he is probably marking "his" territory to let the other cats know who's boss!! As long as the other male cat is around he will probably continue to do so...good luck!! crafty_linda_b

annthreecats 10-14-2011 02:11 AM

Can you confine him to a bathroom with the litter box for a few days. I have heard folks that have had problems use this method to get the cat to use the box again. I think it works. At least it would confine his inappropriate elimination to one space.

There is also a litter called Cat Attract Litter that is supposed to work for enticing the cat to the litter box.

There is also a hormone spray this is supposed to calm cats called Feliway (I think) it comes in a spray and a plug-in. It supposed to calm cats so they are not so tense around each other.

Good luck.

crafty3236 10-14-2011 05:19 AM

My Daughter has a main coon cat that is over 25 pounds he is long hair and hates when its time to comb an do hair balls so she got some of the calming stuff, I will tell you it did not work

crafty3236 10-14-2011 05:19 AM

My Daughter has a main coon cat that is over 25 pounds he is long hair and hates when its time to comb an do hair balls so she got some of the calming stuff, I will tell you it did not work

crafty3236 10-14-2011 05:20 AM

opps didnt mean for double sry

BellaBoo 10-14-2011 05:54 AM

DD has multiple cats and one young cat decided to torment an new older cat. Nothing she tried would stop it. When one of the other cats died, the torment stopped. The vet said there was one too many cats for the tormentors liking and he picked on one to show his dislike, but who knows, cats have amazing different personalities and they act out how they feel. Now the two cats get along fine. She is always finding strays and finds them a home,(they have an outside living area) much to her DH's dismay. He wasn't a cat person at all when they married. DD told him that was sad and to get over it. He brought a stray kitten home so he sure got over it! LOL

funcupl 10-14-2011 06:22 AM

He would become an outside cat for me...even if declawed they survive very well. I have been a cat (many at times-we have at least 10 now) owner all my life. We have had inside cats and outside cats. I am a firm believer of outside cats now. I am getting too old to enjoy all the cleanup and hair that they leave while being inside. Believe me, an inside cat adjusts very quickly to being an outside cat - especially if you have other outside cats. They know who feeds them - and where to go to get that food - and where to go to sleep. Good luck!

SUZAG 10-14-2011 06:32 AM

My young males problems ended when he got fixed but I see yours already is...

athomenow 10-14-2011 07:01 AM

Can you say ad on Craiglist in the free section? He needs to be with someone who doesn't already have pets. I would not put him outside without claws. Just my .02.

Zhillslady 10-14-2011 07:02 AM

Cats pee where they smell pee from before. I spent 3 years as a vet tech at a cat clinic and can tell you - just because you cleaned and can't smell the pee upstairs - unless u used a product to remove cat urine - he still smells it. Check the local pet store for odo-ban or a product designed to remove cat urine. Even bleach is not guaranteed.

Cats are weird. If he pees outside box even when clean see the vet. If he has a UTI he'll associate the box with pain so therefore pees outside box. Instead of using a large cat pan full of litter use one with a small amount you can scoop daily and replace all liter weekly. Tell DD scoop daily or cat goes. Many cats will not use a dirty box. We don't want to step in urine to pee why would they.

All else fails and he continues to terrorize the other cats then you're dealing with an aggression problem and can get meds from vet. I know people hate giving cats a pill but there are teansdermals which are in a gel like form and you rub into the ear and are absorbed. Kinda like kitty prozac. Hope this helps. My DD moved in with me a year ago and her cat still hisses and spits at my 18 yr old munchkin cat. Isolating her to the bathroom helps cause I think she feels punished, like a time out.

Jamiestitcher62 10-14-2011 07:06 AM

That's why I don't have male cats. However, Feliway works very nicely in keeping the calm in a lot of cases.

You've removed the pan upstairs and only have one downstairs and are unhappy that he's peeing upstairs now, well I think the spike mats are keeping him from using the one downstairs, so where is he supposed to go. You definitely need to keep 2 boxes and I would definitely lock him in one room with one box for awhile and have Weebles have access to the other one only. Also if he's peeing on carpeting or near where the box was, put a bowl of dry food right over where he pee'd. They don't usually pee where they eat. My male cat used to pee behind the TV until I started putting a small bowl of food wherever he pee'd and it eventually stopped.

He needs to be segregated from the others, it's too bad but sometimes it's necessary or he needs to start going outside like the others, that will also give Weebles some quiet time from being tortured.

I am having that problem now, my older cat is being tortured by the new younger cat (both females) however the older cat goes outside and is able to have some peace and quiet while the newer kitty is an indoor only. They share two litter boxes and have figured out that you pee in one and poop in the other, it's amazing that the new kitty figured this out almost immediately.

I'm almost thankful that my male cat is gone, they are too big of a pain when they are with other cats. That's why I like females better.

Jamiestitcher62 10-14-2011 07:09 AM

Is this cat declawed? If not he can go outside to poop.

shnnn 10-14-2011 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Zhillslady
Cats pee where they smell pee from before. I spent 3 years as a vet tech at a cat clinic and can tell you - just because you cleaned and can't smell the pee upstairs - unless u used a product to remove cat urine - he still smells it. Check the local pet store for odo-ban or a product designed to remove cat urine. Even bleach is not guaranteed.

Cats are weird. If he pees outside box even when clean see the vet. If he has a UTI he'll associate the box with pain so therefore pees outside box. Instead of using a large cat pan full of litter use one with a small amount you can scoop daily and replace all liter weekly. Tell DD scoop daily or cat goes. Many cats will not use a dirty box. We don't want to step in urine to pee why would they.

All else fails and he continues to terrorize the other cats then you're dealing with an aggression problem and can get meds from vet. I know people hate giving cats a pill but there are teansdermals which are in a gel like form and you rub into the ear and are absorbed. Kinda like kitty prozac. Hope this helps. My DD moved in with me a year ago and her cat still hisses and spits at my 18 yr old munchkin cat. Isolating her to the bathroom helps cause I think she feels punished, like a time out.

Home Depot sells odo-ban. Sorry I don't have any other ideas for your dd kitty

MellieKQuilter 10-14-2011 08:15 AM

I had a friend that had a cat with a peeing problem. She had to re-home him...

BellaBoo 10-14-2011 08:56 AM

Pet and kid owners should never have carpet! My life lesson no. 12. LOL

Kas 10-14-2011 08:56 AM

First of all, the cat should be confined to your dd's room. It isn't fair to your older cats to have to put up with the brat! The cat needs to be checked for a uti or diabetes. My grandmother's cat came to live with us after she died (my Mema, not the cat!) and he was peeing just outside the box. Luckily the box was in a special room with just linoleum on the floor. I thought it was an uti, but his sugar #s were off the chart.


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