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AbbyQuilts 07-08-2011 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by alleyoop1
I am surprised at your comment about what foods contain gluten. My daughter has to avoid gluten and she can't eat anything with wheat in it. Perhaps there are different degrees of this disorder.

I dont know who comment you were surprised at as you didnt quote it but there are different degrees of severity.
There is Celiac and withing celiac you have people who can not have even the tiniest bit of gluten even from cross contamination.
Then you have those like my husband and his father but do not get physically sick (so if they cheat nothing happens right away) but they have bad damage to their intestines and they both have general gastric problems.

Then you have Gluten intolerance/sensitivity and that too ranges for how much it effects that person.

These are the things that natural contain gluten
Wheat
Barley
Rye


Oats do not contain gluten BUT! they are grown in the same fields growing wheat and and processed on the same equipment so cross contamination is heavy. Also Oats have a protein in it similar to gluten. If you are a severe celiac then you may never be able to eat oats


Hope that helps. I have been playing around with gluten free stuff for 7 years now as that is when everyone started getting Dx. But my husband was stubborn and it wasn't until he pretty much had no choice before he went on the diet compleatly

AbbyQuilts 07-08-2011 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by meemersmom
Adding a little more butter to the dough will definitely make it more pliable as someone suggested. Also, brushing a top crust with a little butter or egg wash and sprinkling w/ sugar will help make it pretty. I also noticed you used a different pan for the gluten free pie. Don't discount the effect of the pan --- I think I saw Wilton stamped on it, so its probably a heavier metal, which conducts heat better, which may have cause the boil-over of the filling. You didn't see that on the first pie because it looks to be one of those tin foil disposable pie pans. Just a thought.


Yes I did use 2 different pans
I had just bought the Wilton ones and I didnt want to cross contaminate them so I used tin pans for the flour pies.
Now I know that for next time.
I did use a milk wash, now I am thinking for the gluten free i should have use an egg wash

Thank you about the pans though

GladGrams 07-08-2011 08:40 AM

And the problem is...

smagruder 07-08-2011 09:12 AM

Oh, honey, it looks delicious. If there is any left from all the above sampling... I will be happy to finish it off for you.....lol It isn't what it looks like...but what it tastes like that counts. Bubbling just makes my mouth water... yum yum

sailsablazin 07-08-2011 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by AbbyQuilts

Originally Posted by irishrose
Do you have xanthan gum in your mix? I mix rice flour, coconut flour, tapioca flour and xantham gum and have had good results lately. I also have gluten free oatmeal flour which adds a nice flavor. But some people can't have oatmeal at all.

BTW, your pie looks wonderful. We celiacs know things may look a little different and appreciate your efforts.


I did put xanthan gum in it. I used rice, tapioca and corn starch. The crust itself I think is alright I was just so disappointed that it bubbled over like that. I kept watching it and kept watching it. I checked it one last time and said it needs maybe 5 mins went back in 3 and it looked like that lol. If the crust had browned like the regular pie I might have been able to catch it but it didnt. Ohh well I am sure it is still good.
And thanks I am trying. I have made the best cookies my husband has ever had (so he says lol) and I found some pretty good doughnuts and he likes the bisquick pancakes

Guess I need to get your recipes. MY DH has had to be gluten free and dairy free for the past 30 years and it is a PAIN! The kids and I eat regularly but everything HAS to be homemade. Guess I am grumpy since after 30 years, he does NOT appreciate the time and effort that goes into shopping and preparing. (Basically, he has no clue since it has always been taken care of for him). I usually just made him the "inners" of the pie and make a regular pie for us. Two sisters of mine who used to snicker at us bringing his own food have been diagnosed lately. Now things are not so funny anymore!

jad1044 07-08-2011 09:54 AM

You are so funny!!! but if you need help, call me - I think I could help get rid of that ugly pie!!! :)

jad1044 07-08-2011 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by kraftykimberly
Yes yes, it does look yucky. You just box that thing right up and send it on over to my house where I will dispose of that ugly pie properly for you :-)

I was meaning that for kraftykimberly - if she needed help getting rid of the ugly pie - :)

sailsablazin 07-08-2011 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by AbbyQuilts

Originally Posted by alleyoop1
I am surprised at your comment about what foods contain gluten. My daughter has to avoid gluten and she can't eat anything with wheat in it. Perhaps there are different degrees of this disorder.

I dont know who comment you were surprised at as you didnt quote it but there are different degrees of severity.
There is Celiac and withing celiac you have people who can not have even the tiniest bit of gluten even from cross contamination.
Then you have those like my husband and his father but do not get physically sick (so if they cheat nothing happens right away) but they have bad damage to their intestines and they both have general gastric problems.

Then you have Gluten intolerance/sensitivity and that too ranges for how much it effects that person.

These are the things that natural contain gluten
Wheat
Barley
Rye


Oats do not contain gluten BUT! they are grown in the same fields growing wheat and and processed on the same equipment so cross contamination is heavy. Also Oats have a protein in it similar to gluten. If you are a severe celiac then you may never be able to eat oats


Hope that helps. I have been playing around with gluten free stuff for 7 years now as that is when everyone started getting Dx. But my husband was stubborn and it wasn't until he pretty much had no choice before he went on the diet compleatly

Anything that says "food starch" is also gluten suspect. Except the KRAFT company...when their product says "food starch," it is either potato flour or tapioca flour. There are many, many foods to avoid.....most cereals...for us,, definitely oats, etc...After 30 years, I am an expert on this...ugh!!!

merridancer 07-08-2011 10:29 AM

I see your pie question on the quilting blog and mentioned it to my friend whose family is very involved in gluten free diet and cooking due to gluten intolerance in their family. In fact, they have started a gluten free grain business: www.bigrivergrains.com which you can order all the "wierd" grains from: Amaranth, Buckwheat, Flax, Millet, Quinoa, sorghum and teff.

She used to use recipes that were all rice flour based, but says she has found tremendous luck using sorghum flour in her basic "baking" mix for a better consistency in baked goods. Her new "bible" is the cookbook "1,000 Gluten-Free Recipes" by Carol Fenster. There is a basic mix in the first few pages of that book that is the base of all the recipes. Though she hasn't tried a pie crust with it yet, she says she makes the best buttermilk biscuits around and a mean chocolate cake, yum.

If you want to talk to her directly, you can email her thru the website. And, of course, I am supposed to give Big River Grains a plug and let you know their individual bags of flour will be available on line in the new few weeks.

Good luck with the pie crust.

softpatches 07-08-2011 10:33 AM

I too have Celiac and I would LOVE to have that pie----I know what you mean abt learning to cook all over again.

I have mastered cornbread that everyone in my family will eat---- :))


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