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Burkmum 04-19-2020 10:35 AM

Help! Disappearing ink will not.
 
Using an air/water soluble pen to mark intricate quilting on a wall hanging.,it’s been a few days and ink is still there!! Aaah panicking a tiny bit. I’ve used this method hundreds of times but this time detail quilting is quite dense, also used a high thread count sheet for background (appliqué) . My dilemma: I don’t want to launder this afterwards, it’s a wall hanging. I’ve stopped for now. How do I get this ink out without using soap? Also, has anyone used those pens that erase with heat? I really have to mark a lot on this thing and I have much more to go. Help!!

Iceblossom 04-19-2020 10:41 AM

Ok, first thing we need to know is what exactly are you using for the pen. Picture would be good if you can.

This isn't going to be something I can probably help with, but like everyone else I've had an unexpected result here and there with disappearing ink.

Iceblossom 04-19-2020 10:57 AM

It can be hard to jump through the hoops to post pictures here, usually helps to work on a day when you aren't already frustrated. So just tell us exactly what it says, but I really appreciate your quick attempt!

Burkmum 04-19-2020 11:00 AM

Purple felt pen. Air and water soluble. I’m gonna try a Q-tip with water. Still gotta come up with a plan to finish it however

Tartan 04-19-2020 11:30 AM

Yes, try a Q-tip with water first. For further lines, I like to use plain white chalkboard chalk that I sharpen with a big pencil pencil sharpener and I use a dry toothbrush to remove any chalk after quilting. As for Frixion pens that remove with an iron, they can leave ghost lines on dark fabric after ironing and the lines come back in cold weather. Good Luck!

Tish05 04-19-2020 03:30 PM

Not sure if you've tried the q-tip yet, and if so, if it helped at all. I had some of the air/water erase pens that stuck around for about a week or so. I started with the 1-tip and found that it just made the marks bigger (spread them around and pushed the ink further in to the fabric). In the end, I just spritzed it with a bit of water and the marks started disappearing.

GEMRM 04-19-2020 04:49 PM

If you decide to use a different marking tool, I like the Clover one that marks a thin white line and irons off. Another nice one I use, but not it cannot draw as intricate a line is a waxy type of crayon that is made with iron off pounce - it sharpens with a crayon sharpener if needed (but wastes that portion) - it marks very nicely too, just a little thicker line and irons off.

mjkgquilt 04-24-2020 06:49 PM

Have had times when I thought the air erase pen would never erase. Think it took almost a month. Be patient.

P-BurgKay 04-25-2020 05:45 AM

Put a teaspoon of baking soda in a cup of water and spritz after quilting. It has worked for me. I have had to spritz 2 or 3 times on some markings. Be sure to let it dry between spritzing.

Three Dog Night 04-25-2020 06:02 AM

I use baking soda/water method also, I learned in class by Kelly Cline doing Vintage Quilting, worked even on satin.

Christine- 05-11-2020 08:22 AM

Which water soluble pencil/pen is the one where you spritz it with water to make it disappear?

juliasb 05-11-2020 09:17 AM

I have used the fading water soluble pens on a couple quilts no problem then I have one, a king size Cathedral Windows that the markings never came out of the border.
I now use the heat pens where you iron out the markings. I have heard that some people have problems with a tale tell marking that remains. To date I have had no problem. I do not use them on white though just out of fear of leaving a residue. On white I have been using Press and Seal. That is a bit bulky for me but it works.

cgorham 12-09-2022 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by Burkmum (Post 8378973)
Using an air/water soluble pen to mark intricate quilting on a wall hanging.,it’s been a few days and ink is still there!! Aaah panicking a tiny bit. I’ve used this method hundreds of times but this time detail quilting is quite dense, also used a high thread count sheet for background (appliqué) . My dilemma: I don’t want to launder this afterwards, it’s a wall hanging. I’ve stopped for now. How do I get this ink out without using soap? Also, has anyone used those pens that erase with heat? I really have to mark a lot on this thing and I have much more to go. Help!!

You asked if anyone has used the pens that erase with heat. Yes, I have. I have actually used them extensively on a number of quilts. Then I read somewhere that the markings can return in very cold conditions.

After reading this, I did a test to see if it was true. I took a piece of light colored fabric and marked on it with several different colors of my heat disappearing pens (Frixion is the brand name I have). I ironed the markings away, then placed the fabric in the freezer for about an hour. When I took it out, lo and behold, the markings were back. They ironed away again, however.

I can only think of a couple of scenarios where markings might come back, but I'm still hesitant to use these markers now. Does anyone have a better solution? I have a client coming in a couple of weeks with a vintage quilt top to be quilted with feathers all over. I normally mark the spines on my feathers. I have had trouble with blue Pounce and other color chalk pens not coming out well in the past. White Pounce comes out, but the background where I'll be doing the feathers is white.
Any suggestions on that one?

peaceandjoy 12-09-2022 05:17 AM

I wouldn't use the heat pens. The manufacturer has said they are not meant for fabric. They have 2 components: The thermal ink, which dissipates with heat, and gel ink, which remains. Many have had them "ghost" after use. On lighter fabrics, typically a light brown line. On darker fabrics, it can show as a white line or as what looks like a grease mark.

Whatever method you use, unless it's a Herra marker, I'd check it with the fabric being used every single time. It seems like every pen out there has occasionally caused problems. I don't know if that's a reaction with the specific fabric or how the fabric was prepared, but to me, it would be worth the inconvenience to avoid a more serious problem later.

cgorham 12-09-2022 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by peaceandjoy (Post 8579432)
I wouldn't use the heat pens. The manufacturer has said they are not meant for fabric. They have 2 components: The thermal ink, which dissipates with heat, and gel ink, which remains. Many have had them "ghost" after use. On lighter fabrics, typically a light brown line. On darker fabrics, it can show as a white line or as what looks like a grease mark.

Whatever method you use, unless it's a Herra marker, I'd check it with the fabric being used every single time. It seems like every pen out there has occasionally caused problems. I don't know if that's a reaction with the specific fabric or how the fabric was prepared, but to me, it would be worth the inconvenience to avoid a more serious problem later.

Thanks for the info, peaceandjoy. And THANK you for reminding me about my Herra marker that I completely forgot about. :-D

BonnieJP 12-09-2022 06:14 AM

The pens that erase with heat DO NOT. The marks return if the quilt is subjected to cold temperatures. I bought heat/erase pens that were supposed to be specifically for quilting. When I tested on a scrap and put it in my freezer, the marks came back. I returned the pens.


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