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Thread: Are all Long Arms as tempermental as my Tin Lizzie?

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    Super Member bamamama's Avatar
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    I have just finished a nice quilt and used King Tut top, Sew Fine bottom. No problems....

    I started to do some charityquilts and changed to a different less expensive thread and it shreads and breaks after 9-10" of quilting. So here I go. I spent the entire afternoon trying to get it to stop doing that. The stitches are beautiful but the thread shreads and breaks. I've tried everything.

    Are all Long Arm machines this tempermental? or is it just the Tin Lizzie?

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    So sorry for your problems. I don't have tension problems very often, but a new dealer cleaned my machine and it took me all day to get the tension back to where I like it. I will stick with my regular dealer from now on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamamama
    I have just finished a nice quilt and used King Tut top, Sew Fine bottom. No problems....

    I started to do some charityquilts and changed to a different less expensive thread and it shreads and breaks after 9-10" of quilting. So here I go. I spent the entire afternoon trying to get it to stop doing that. The stitches are beautiful but the thread shreads and breaks. I've tried everything.

    Are all Long Arm machines this tempermental? or is it just the Tin Lizzie?
    it could be the thread-some threads just do not work for quilting no matter what machine you have.

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    The APQS Millenium I use at work is like that and worse depending on the day. When it quilts, I just don't want to stop...when it doesn't quilt, I might as well leave and try again another day. I've talked to the representative about it and have used other machines, it seems like the problem is most likely the age of our thread combined with in-proper storage. Any chance that could be your problem? Our main "shredders" are King Tut and Rainbow...not the normal for shredding.

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    Don't have one but I think some are finicky about threads from what i hear

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    my tin lizzy is a sisters to yours. it dont like any thing but good good thread, the little miss smarty pants lol

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    I also have a tin lizzie and have the same problem. It seems like I spend so much time working with this problem. I sure wish I had an answer.

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    Well, I guess I'll just have to let my Lizzie be a thread diva and feed her nothing but King Tut. Spoiled Brat!

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    I don't have the Tin Lizzie but an HQ.

    When the thread shreds it is usually because of the needle. Evidently the industry standard for quilting machine needles is that 3 out of 10 needles are defective! Only for us would that be so high.

    If the thread breaks it is usualy a thread problem. I have had defective thread and returned it and the LQS confirmed it was defective thread.

    It is sooo dry here that many LAer's put their thread in the refrigerator or spray mist the thread with water [just a bit and let it sit in a plastic bag or use that thread lubricant [I forget the name of that one, sorry.]

    Many LAer's also use the TOWA to check the bobbin tension with each new bobbin winding. That way they only have to adjust the top tension.

    Hope this helps.

    ali

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    I have a Bailey not a tin lizzie however when my thread breaks often if I change my needle it usually solves the problem. Good luck with yours.

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    We have an A1 and my DH uses every brand imagineable on it with very little problems. Ever now & then he will have to adjust the tension, but not often. I have read that a lot of machines really prefer certain brands of thread.

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    When I got my Tin Lizzie last month, the dealer told me...Only use King Tut and you will never have tension problems. She doesn't even sell that brand, so I was alittle confused... but she was right. My "Mitzie" TL only likes King Tut, just as my Janome only liked Aurafil or Mettler. The only problem I have had with my TL is the bobbin case being bent from me dropping it, and that problem has been rectified. So, yes, our machines are Thread Diva's and I will only use King Tut as advised by the dealer.

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    OOPS... Sorry...double post...impatient fingers this morning!

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    I guess I'm lucky. My TL can be very temperamental, but not so much about thread. I use Signature. Most days she likes it unless she's in a mood. I read on the TLyahoo forum that you can put thread in the freezer a few hours and it helps with shredding. No idea why.

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    Any machine should be able to use any thread you throw at it, as long as you have your tension adjusted properly, the correct needle in, and you don't have your quilt sandwich too tight. I think this is mostly a learning curve. Don't be afraid to play with tension... that's what those adjustments are there for!

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    My Nolting loves King Tut and Other Supirior threads, and nothing else. Quality thread is a must and the cost is worth haveing less aggrivation. Oh! Did I ever have a lot of problems when I was first learning to use the big machine. It is all trial and error. Now I always have a sample quilt (just 2 pieces solid fabric, So I can see the stitch quality) on zippers ready to load and test before I start any quilting. This routine saves so much time. Hope your future quilting goes better and better each time!

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    Wow, I've had my TL for about 2 months, and so far it will sew with anything I've loaded, Connecting Threads, Coats, Signature. Haven't tried the expensive stuff yet. The tension seems to be easily set too. Now if I could just get the bobbin winder adjusted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by quilterella
    When I got my Tin Lizzie last month, the dealer told me...Only use King Tut and you will never have tension problems. She doesn't even sell that brand, so I was alittle confused... but she was right. My "Mitzie" TL only likes King Tut, just as my Janome only liked Aurafil or Mettler. The only problem I have had with my TL is the bobbin case being bent from me dropping it, and that problem has been rectified. So, yes, our machines are Thread Diva's and I will only use King Tut as advised by the dealer.
    I used Aurifil on it last time I did charity quilts because it was donated. The 40 wt worked wonderful but the 50 wt did not. Marge on the TL yahoo group is a big help. She said that if use a different weight thread you sometimes need to use a different size needle. I find the King Tut Egyptian Cotton thread to be very linty in the machine.

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    We had a terrible time with tension setting on our Nolting. No matter what we did it was too tight. We finally changed the thread top and bobbin and now it has beautiful stitches. Thread does make a difference. It may be that our old thread had been in storage for a long while and exposed to extreme heat and cold. So glad it is working good now.

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    I put king tut back in and no more problems...well now the stitch regulator is acting up again!

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    Giving your cone of the cheaper thread a couple sprays of silicone spray (food grade) or using Sewer's Aid down the side can help. I have some serger thread from JoAnn's that I have to do that with. My Voyager definitely prefers King Tut!

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    I found that Organ brand needles have the highest standard of manufacturing. The metal used is stronger and makes a sharp point. I spent an afternoon researching machine needles online and Organ was the cream of the crop according to all the industry trade (not opinion) articles I read.

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    As far as needles go, I use the HQ needles in my HQ and I don't have any problems with my needles.

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    My Sunshine has been breaking a lot of thread but I am just starting to learn how to use it so I think in my case it is due to human error.

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    My Lizzie has always worked fine with any thread except once when I used some thread that I knew was old. The old thread broke every foot or so, just hopeless. When I do change thread brands I check the tension as it usually needs to be adjusted when I change.

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