Cheating???
03-31-2013, 05:57 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by justflyingin
I think that initially when I heard that some people entered shows with quilts that others quilted, I also thought like the OP...but then I realized that you are supposed to give credit to the one who actually quilted the quilt if it was a different person than the piecer. So, if that is the case, then both are given credit and that seems fair enough.
The only reason it seems wrong to many is that if the judging is the "quilting" primarily (as opposed to the piecing of the top), then it seems like the wrong person is getting the ribbon. However, it appears like the judges have figured it all out and seem to cover all the bases, making sure everyone gets the credit they deserve.
The only reason it seems wrong to many is that if the judging is the "quilting" primarily (as opposed to the piecing of the top), then it seems like the wrong person is getting the ribbon. However, it appears like the judges have figured it all out and seem to cover all the bases, making sure everyone gets the credit they deserve.
The quilting is not the only thing that's judged. Everything from how well the fabrics go together to construction to overall impact is judged. Judges have a whole list of things they go thru for each and every quilt. Each quilt is judged on its own merits then judged against the other top contenders in the same class and then against the top contenders for that section. Then all top section winners are judged against each other for the top ribbons. The judging process is fairly long.
Our fair even has an antique category and you only have to own the quilt to enter it!
To decide someone is cheating based on just wandering thru a quilt show or fair does a real disservice to the quilter, the judges and the show organizers.
03-31-2013, 06:09 AM
#32
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I know some who have their quilts quilted by others, believe if they pay the quilter for their work it is their quilting. I do not agree with this, since the quilter spent time making their piece a quilt, and the maker only sewed the pieces together to make a top. I also do not agree with quilters name on quilts in a show. The person who owns the quilt and pays for the quilt to be finished, then is advertising for the quilter. Most quilters do not give a person a break on the price if they do give them the credit. I guess it is a complete circle. And will always be a question.
03-31-2013, 06:16 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by soccertxi
Please don't use the word "cheat". Someone told me I was a CHEATER...loudly and often, because I'm a machine quilter and not a hand quilter. Its SUCH a strong word. I was so upset, I cried. Now I'm just angry that I let that man's words cheapen the nice work I do. Everyone has their own opinions I know, but this is QUILTING..not surgery or rocket science. There is a place for ALL that we do. By the way, next time I show off a quilt, and his JAW drops, he might hear that he will NEVER get one of my quilts. And I did not picket his cabinet shop with signs that said he was a cheater because he uses POWER TOOLS instead of hand tools. ....ok...sorry! Off my soap box now...I love it ALL..hand, machine, quilt for hire, do all your own... we need to back ourselves up, not knock ourselves down.
03-31-2013, 06:51 AM
#34
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I've been working on a Yo Yo quilt for the last year and a half. I've made nearly 6000 Yo Yo's from one fabric line designs in pastels, I'm now sewing them to a plain cloth quilt. I felt a king sized Yo Yo quilt would be too much stress on the traditional Yo Yo coverlet individual Yo Yo's. (When I've observed older Yo Yo quilts they typically have come apart where the Yo Yo's are joined so in my estimation a large Yo Yo coverlet sew traditionally would be doomed in short order.
When discussing that I would like to enter this Yo Yo Quilt in the County and or State fair (if it turns out as well as my minds eye thinks it will :0)
I was told last week during quilt week when talking to some 'veterans' who've entered the fairs here.... that the judging is so very strict, if not indeed arbitrary...okay I can follow rules...BUT when I was told that one of the members in our local guild who makes exquisite quilts btw, was disqualified because they found a/or a small amount pet hair on her quilt... really?????? I know this member have visited her very tidy home and by the way she has no pets..... The comment on her entry card was that if she didn't care enough to enter a quilt sans pet fur then it wasn't worthy of judging.
I have two cats and I cannot guarantee that my quilt won't have a pet hair despite my efforts to enter a 'clean' enough quilt for that kind of scrutiny. Please understand I don't leave home looking like Sasquatch covered in pet hair but that story has certainly discouraged my thoughts of entering this quilt, which I think will be somewhat unique.
So this quilt probably won't be entered into the County or State Fair....
When discussing that I would like to enter this Yo Yo Quilt in the County and or State fair (if it turns out as well as my minds eye thinks it will :0)
I was told last week during quilt week when talking to some 'veterans' who've entered the fairs here.... that the judging is so very strict, if not indeed arbitrary...okay I can follow rules...BUT when I was told that one of the members in our local guild who makes exquisite quilts btw, was disqualified because they found a/or a small amount pet hair on her quilt... really?????? I know this member have visited her very tidy home and by the way she has no pets..... The comment on her entry card was that if she didn't care enough to enter a quilt sans pet fur then it wasn't worthy of judging.
I have two cats and I cannot guarantee that my quilt won't have a pet hair despite my efforts to enter a 'clean' enough quilt for that kind of scrutiny. Please understand I don't leave home looking like Sasquatch covered in pet hair but that story has certainly discouraged my thoughts of entering this quilt, which I think will be somewhat unique.
So this quilt probably won't be entered into the County or State Fair....
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03-31-2013, 07:17 AM
#35
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I put the machine quilter's name and state and date on the label along with my own piecing and applique. Before I send it out.
I have known a few people who enter shows without indicating the quilting or patchwork is done by someone else. They have to live with it, not me.
Many many well known quilt book authors send their tops out to be quilted and very seldom is it mentioned in the book. Both hand and machine.
I have known a few people who enter shows without indicating the quilting or patchwork is done by someone else. They have to live with it, not me.
Many many well known quilt book authors send their tops out to be quilted and very seldom is it mentioned in the book. Both hand and machine.
03-31-2013, 08:41 AM
#36
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At our local show whoever makes the top gets the credit and the ribbon and the long armer isn't even mentioned usually. I've been to other shows where there were two ribbons, one for the piecer and one for the long armer. I will say that two years ago most of the quilts were quilted by someone other than the piecer but this year I saw quite a few quilts that were completely done by one person, several hand quilted. Maybe pride of workmanship is coming back rather than just quantity of quilts or more people are getting their own long arm setups.
03-31-2013, 08:43 AM
#37
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I entered a hand embroideried ABC quilt I had made for my grandson. I machine quilted it and entered it in our little county fair where it won a 2nd place ribbon. I was proud of it and my grandson loved the fact that his quilt won. I was sharing the news with my neighbor and she made the statement that it was just a little ole county fair and didn't mean much in the quilt world! After I got over her rudeness I told her it meant a lot in my world...and Billy's!
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